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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I have more Te motivations than Fe motivations in the Socionics system. In MBTI I'm definitely Fe although of the less fluffy variety.

    And I find this fits in with my query about indirect/direct communication by the nature of complaints against ENTJs. I think most of the people on this forum are indirect communicators and direct communication tends to rub them the wrong way.
    How can people be rubbed the wrong way by the truth?

    I'm just curious because my logical brain can't understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    How can people be rubbed the wrong way by the truth?

    HAHAHA. HAHAHA. HAHAHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    There wasn't anything wrong with your post.
    I quoted you because of that other thread you posted in, about no one quoting you.
    I didn't think you would forget so quickly.
    unless this is tongue in cheek, it's the other thread that I *was* referring to! I knew that's why you just quoted me! durr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    unless this is tongue in cheek, it's the other thread that I *was* referring to! I knew that's why you just quoted me! durr.

    Oh Christ, now I see what you were referring to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    How can people be rubbed the wrong way by the truth?

    I'm just curious because my logical brain can't understand this.
    Most people would like truth presented during a five course meal, preferably after the main course so they don't lose their appetite.

    It's about presentation and refraining from eliciting feelings of ineptness. I think direct communicators often come across as talking down to people or bossing people around. I'm sure you've encountered people who have told you to do something rather than asking you to do something, people that say "Come here" rather than "Can you come here for a minute?" Then you've got tone, motivation/intent, and perception all mixed into it. People get prickly. Is the prickliness justified? Sometimes yes and sometimes no.
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    I can definitely understand this.

    It's just annoying that people read sooooo much into every nuance of every syllable that leaves my mouth.
    However, I draw the line at being forced to dance on eggshells for people.

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    Who cares?

    They can take the hate.






    Usually deserve it too.

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    LOL. What an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    ENTJs don't run away from people in straight-jackets.


    The fact that you actually give a shit, makes me wonder if you're ENTJ.
    they run away from people who can kick their ass though.

    and how many posts do you got here so far? you seem to be giving the most shit out of all the entjs.

    Aside from Jaguar, I havn't really been too negative towards the other entjs, but as far as in real life, that was the only entj I knew, and he didn't give me a good impression in the end, we were friends and he was cool but he just freaked out when I presented facts in the debate he couldn't "debunk".

    Kind of like Jaguar freaking out about this...


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