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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavos View Post
    Aren't you an ENTJ, too? You have "LIE" listed as your sociotype...
    I have more Te motivations than Fe motivations in the Socionics system. In MBTI I'm definitely Fe although of the less fluffy variety.

    And I find this fits in with my query about indirect/direct communication by the nature of complaints against ENTJs. I think most of the people on this forum are indirect communicators and direct communication tends to rub them the wrong way.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Decline View Post
    You should see the profile someone dug up from INTPc in which Solitary Walker rants on about ENFJs, uses all capslock, and says some "mommy why did you force me to go to church?" sorts of things.

    It's grade-A awesome

    Solitary Walker? Oh, right. The guy who doesn't know what a paragraph break is.

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    Do you realize Solitary Walker's entire rant is about ESFJs, and not ENFJs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Do you realize Solitary Walker's entire rant is about ESFJs, and not ENFJs?
    Oops.

    At any rate, as mentioned above, certain IxxP's have angst issues with ExxJ's
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    And I find this fits in with my query about indirect/direct communication by the nature of complaints against ENTJs. I think most of the people on this forum are indirect communicators and direct communication tends to rub them the wrong way.
    Yes, I think this is true. I actually tend to prefer more direct communication (although I won't lie, sometimes the bluntness takes me by surprise and it takes me a few seconds to absorb)....indirectness can annoy me and make me want to say, "Get to the point!/ "Spit out what you're really saying!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    Yes, I think this is true. I actually tend to prefer more direct communication (although I won't lie, sometimes the bluntness takes me by surprise and it takes me a few seconds to absorb)....indirectness can annoy me and make me want to say, "Get to the point!/ "Spit out what you're really saying!"

    I thought I'd quote you for the hell of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I thought I'd quote you for the hell of it.
    Oh lord, for those who caught that post of mine, I'm never gonna live it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    Oh lord, for those who caught that post of mine, I'm never gonna live it down.
    There wasn't anything wrong with your post.
    I quoted you because of that other thread you posted in, about no one quoting you.
    I didn't think you would forget so quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I seem to find that alot of you describe ENTJs as ESTJs, which is not cool.
    Stop hating!
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