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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    INTJs are so fun to mess with
    Ah, classic. One of the puzzling things about TPs...if you want respect/understanding with regard to who you are does it really seem like a good idea to use other people's emotions/concerns etc. for kicks or entertainment? You may very well believe this is the way you figure people out (and I can see how this works partly), by poking them, but in fact you obscure large parts of what it is to be an INTJ to yourself because you're eroding trust...if your goal is true understanding, this doesn't make sense. Or it doesn't make sense to only do that without also providing ways in which the INTJ will feel safe to open up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    Ah, classic. One of the puzzling things about TPs...if you want respect/understanding with regard to who you are does it really seem like a good idea to use other people's emotions/concerns etc. for kicks or entertainment? You may very well believe this is the way you figure people out (and I can see how this works partly), by poking them, but in fact you obscure large parts of what it is to be an INTJ to yourself because you're eroding trust...if your goal is true understanding, this doesn't make sense. Or it doesn't make sense to only do that without also providing ways in which the INTJ will feel safe to open up to you.
    Clearly, the INTPs are joking. I have noticed INTJs have difficulty becoming light-hearted. Sure, that conclusion is based solely on one friend and the post I just quoted, but... I was going somewhere with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    No, it was a reference to yours. It's yours that she is............tracing.
    Huh were you referring to me? I meant tracing as in tracking stuff. As in stalking. Not whatever thing your minds conjured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyk View Post
    Clearly, the INTPs are joking. I have noticed INTJs have difficulty becoming light-hearted. Sure, that conclusion is based solely on one friend and the post I just quoted, but... I was going somewhere with this.
    I suggest you read the post and don't get hung up on the fact someone reacts differently (negatively) from what you would have liked or expected or think is right.

    I grew up with a TP brother and some of the things he considered just joking and maybe even a fun thing to do/share seemed very cruel to me and my INTJ father, they'd often have a manipulative, or power-struggle related aspect from our perspectives. My brother used to think we were overreacting and had no sense of humour and would never validate our feelings. So for the longest time all he saw was Ni-Te.

    Just don't complain that's all you see from INTJs if you're not prepared to empathise a little. It's such a tiresome pattern.

    And just to extend you the same courtesy: haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thealchemist View Post
    Huh were you referring to me? I meant tracing as in tracking stuff. As in stalking. Not whatever thing your minds conjured.
    Dang it! The joke got lost. Oh well, it happens. Yeah, I was implying that you were..........tracking/stalking his pness. Cuz that's the kind of girl you are.

    Oh, wait, you thought I was talking about the male anatomy? I can't believe you! I was just talking cognitive functions and you go and turn it into a discussion about genitalia. Haha...now I'm just toying with you.
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    I don't think INTPs are automatically smarter than INTJs, or any other type really. As a former J, some traits I had then that are different now include: more productive, goal orientated, believed in one "truth", liked to plan activities out, less moody, wanted to "change teh world" with my revolutionary ideas and thought myself superior to anyone else who wasn't like me. I've also noticed INTJs seem to be friendlier or more tactful and have a usually humorous approach to situations. Though this could have had nothing to do with type.
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    Are INTJ's more likely to make decisions based on feeling (3rd function) as opposed to INTP's (4th function)?

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    I suspect so, but remember that INTJ feeling is Fi, meaning our decisions are influenced by our personal standards of what is right rather than a desire to please or respond to any external entity. The tertiary for INTPs is Si. When I learned this, I understood better why my INTP's decisions are often influenced by personal history, family tradition, etc. It always seemed rather illogical to me, but no more so than my own sense that something is "just plain right/wrong". Generally, we both manage to run our Fi/Si inputs through our respective N-T circuits before acting, though, so they influence our decisions, but don't dictate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    I suggest you read the post and don't get hung up on the fact someone reacts differently (negatively) from what you would have liked or expected or think is right.

    I grew up with a TP brother and some of the things he considered just joking and maybe even a fun thing to do/share seemed very cruel to me and my INTJ father, they'd often have a manipulative, or power-struggle related aspect from our perspectives. My brother used to think we were overreacting and had no sense of humour and would never validate our feelings. So for the longest time all he saw was Ni-Te.

    Just don't complain that's all you see from INTJs if you're not prepared to empathise a little. It's such a tiresome pattern.

    And just to extend you the same courtesy: haha.
    Well malice is about intent. I'm not sure why anyone would get upset if there's no intent of malice. That just doesn't make any sense. I'll give an example of something I've done that you'd probably smack me for. I was talking to my INTJ (and pretty catholic) then-girlfriend one saturday night, and made some off-handed remark about her visiting her imaginary friend the following morning. She did not take it well, and I'm fairly sure that remark was a solid portion of why she broke up with me like 2 weeks later. I was pretty clearly joking, and emphasized that to make sure I wasn't just misunderstood, and I am still confused about why she got upset. Can you explain to me why someone would get upset over a joke? Or if I've totally missed the point, could you explain a little better?

    Communication is admittedly not one of my people's strong points (or mine at least), so some of our jokes are not taken as such, and that's a legitimate fault.

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