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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I've never had a male threaten violence against me for debating (well, except one family member, but that's mostly brought on by reasons other than gender). I think the reason for this is that, in general, the only types of people I will engage in debate with are reasonably intelligent. And nobody who is reasonably intelligent will threaten people with physical violence over non-physical disagreements. In other words, I completely avoid anyone who is stupid enough to be threatened by women or by arguments with women (to the point that they'd resort to physical aggression.) The funny thing is that these types of morons are usually extremely transparent and thus easily avoided.
    I usually agree with the above. But one time, I got threatened by a guy that seemed intelligent, affable, charming. He was a co-worker of mine, and I was working as a producer for the local evening news. He was an anchor, and the other anchor and I were putting together the order of news stories that would go in that evening's broadcast. He was wanting one story to go near the top or some such, and she and I joked about not letting him have a say--it was CLEARLY a lighthearted thing, but his ego wasn't having it. He asked if he could talk to me in another room. When we got there, his demeanor had completely changed. He threatened me, and told me that he was tired of not being listened to (we had never excluded him before, and this time, it was meant, by us, as a joke), and that he wouldn't be ignored, etc. etc. I said, "Hey, I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt..." and he broke me off and some macho b.s. about his feelings not being hurt, and I said, "Oh. Then this is an ego thing. Sorry, I'm not interested in having a conversation about your bruised ego." And I left the room. But I will say that he was very scary in that moment, and I'd have been scared if we'd been the only two in the building.

    He seemed to be threatened by me, though I didn't see myself as a threat. He also didn't put the other anchor at fault (She was probably an xSFJ)--just me. I still get the creeps when I think about being alone in a room with that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I think this applies to all NT females.
    yes, I quite agree
    please just notice that my last message was not me trying to say I'm special or something but actually an answer to Ragingkatsuki who said NTP girls are not girly and are seen as tomboys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Anyways perhaps NTP girls are seen more as tomboys and therefore people stereotype them. When they do this they act towards the girl in a more aggressive way. NTP girls are just not 'girly'.
    Tis just one theory

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    Thanks for posting that Tallulah although it sucks that it happened to you. But that illustrated exactly what I meant and what I have had happen to me before as well. Someone escalates so over the top aggressively towards you, while others have said the same thing or it's similar.

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    I haven't noticed this...and this is kind of off topic, but this makes me think about a few years ago when my hours were getting cut at work. I was looking for a part time job as a barista. I was not interested in becoming a manager or anything like that, I just needed something to supplement my income. Each manager at each job I applied at talked to me like I was going to come in and try to take over the company. This one guy was going on and on about how I would have to start as a busser and wouldn't be allowed to run the cash register until he was sure my bussing skills were satisfactory. I told him that sounded fine with me and that I understood but he kept lecturing me about this. It took all I had not to roll my eyes out of their sockets.

    Maybe it was coincidental...but to me it seemed like they felt threatened by my experience (I was a front of house manager at the restaurant I was working at the time). I certainly doubt that I was acting aggressively. And I know I was being extra careful not to put my foot in my mouth and say something stupid (which I've been known to do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuable_Money View Post
    Women arnt a statistical minority, accept in china.
    While sexism is rampant, I meant individuals that don't fit into the gender binary.



    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    i read it as "know their place" as in 01011010 doesn't necessarily feel that way, but as an objective observation.
    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Yes, that was the point - to illustrate that some people think that we have a place to be in. I wrote the same thing earlier.
    I cosign this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01011010 View Post
    While sexism is rampant, I meant individuals that don't fit into the gender binary.
    Sooooo hermaphrodites, transexuals, eunichs and those without directly obvious gender?

    That would probably be true I'm sure as well, probably even moreso than the typical male/female divide. Can see those kinda rare situations being so much more complex than the crap we already take for granted as being a pain, due to the fact that BOTH sides of the black&white view of things going against them.

    Or did yeu mean something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuni View Post
    Or did yeu mean something else?
    You got it.

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