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    Default Competition, conflict and capitalist apologetics

    It is my intention to identify the source of spitefulness in competition.

    Is negative sentiment a necessary attribute of opposition?

    I believe not.

    Superiority is not the motivation of the improver, rather the motivation is a desire to utility.

    When a man is bested, then does he feel worthless and feel necessitated to alter himself.

    Is it not possible then for the sentiment present in the besting of each other to be a compassionate sentiment? I challenge you in order to necessitate your virtue, in order that you may live.

    The action is also selfish, for your continued competition is that which necessitates my improvement.

    The loss of a worthy opponent is terrible.

    The source of our sentiments seems inherently participatory. In order for me to feel either negatively or positively towards you, I must necessarily have a sense of you, you must be the target or my action which carries sentiment.

    Fraternity therefore seems a necessary precursor to happy capitalism.

    The issue lies not in the mechanics of economics and politics but in their elements, in the people.

    Negative sentiment (EDIT: between competitors) is inefficient, it is evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    It is my intention to identify the source of spitefulness in competition.

    Is negative sentiment a necessary attribute of opposition?

    I believe not.

    Superiority is not the motivation of the improver, rather the motivation is a desire to utility.

    When a man is bested, then does he feel worthless and feel necessitated to alter himself.

    Is it not possible then for the sentiment present in the besting of each other to be a compassionate sentiment? I challenge you in order to necessitate your virtue, in order that you may live.

    The action is also selfish, for your continued competition is that which necessitates my improvement.

    The loss of a worthy opponent is terrible.

    The source of our sentiments seems inherently participatory. In order for me to feel either negatively or positively towards you, I must necessarily have a sense of you, you must be the target or my action which carries sentiment.

    Fraternity therefore seems a necessary precursor to happy capitalism.

    The issue lies not in the mechanics of economics and politics but in their elements, in the people.

    Negative sentiment is inefficient, it is evil.

    I think in the long run, if one feels they are on even terms with their opponent, then "the sentiment present in the besting of each other [will] be a compassionate sentiment.

    However in the case where one person or group is repeatedly getting the shaft, you will most definitely have a negative sentiment and it is not necessarily evil. One should want to improve oneself, but that does not necessarily mean the group that has some sort of 'power' whether it economic, social or the like, over another is an improvement, a step down, or somewhere in between.


    I think if we are all equals and we treat each other as such, capitalism works wonderfully. However, clearly that is not the case, and in a system that promotes selfishness, the selfish, manipulative, and 'evil' as you call it will gain a marked advantage if they are cunning enough to fool the average person.


    Disclaimer: This is merely an observation and not my economic views, though it is certainly my view on economics.

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    OOOH, good point.

    Yeah I was referring to negative sentiment between competitors, not so much the negative sentiment which is a reaction to being trodden on.

    I don't call selfishness evil, neither manipulation. I don't consider selfishness or manipulation to be inherently malicious and I think I equate evil with maliciousness.

    Also it is true that I'm leaving out those who don't compete and also those who are incapable of competing. Should they be pitied?
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