[NT] The world is flat....?

[tinkerbell]

Hi

If you go back a few 00 years or so the entire world beleive the world was flat....

What basic assumptions do you think we live our lives by today that will not be right in a few hundered years (to the point we all look a little foolish).....?

 

[Katsuni]

The world was not believed to be flat, it's a bad myth.

It's been easy to prove the world's round for thousands of years, it's not even hard to tell with the concept of the horizon.

I'm not sure where the myth came from, but rest assured that columbus was NOT afraid of sailing off the 'edge of the world' =3




That being said, the point still stands. There's LOTS of things we say which look fine today, but with a little misinformation and mythology applied, I'm sure stuff that actually IS accurate today will look silly hundreds of years from now just because of how it's misinformed to them in the future.

 

[Grungemouse]

I think they believed that the world was ovular, but not round.

To answer your question, perhaps 90% of what nutritionists tell us.

 

[Katsuni]

If we're going to go that path, let's also add in global warming =3

Considering that the vast majority of information on it is misquoted and butchered beyond recognition >.<

 

[Shimmy]

The world was not believed to be flat, it's a bad myth.

It's been easy to prove the world's round for thousands of years, it's not even hard to tell with the concept of the horizon.

I'm not sure where the myth came from, but rest assured that columbus was NOT afraid of sailing off the 'edge of the world' =3




That being said, the point still stands. There's LOTS of things we say which look fine today, but with a little misinformation and mythology applied, I'm sure stuff that actually IS accurate today will look silly hundreds of years from now just because of how it's misinformed to them in the future.

There most certainly have been times and civilisations that thought the earth was flat! Admittedly Columbus didn't believe this no. After all he wanted to sail the other way around the world to India.

Click!

 

[Valiant]

What basic assumptions do you think we live our lives by today that will not
be right in a few hundered years (to the point we all look a little foolish).....?

Humanism in general. Ineffective and against evolution.
The very notion that everyone has an equal value? It's absurd.
Just saying. I'm not rid of humanism's irrational little claws.
It's one thing to be nice, and another to retard humanity's progress.

For an instance, those who are against stem cell research and "tampering" with genes...
They should go and live with the Amish and other fools.

Another thing directly related to this horrible steam and stupid humanism...
Countries need to start taking responsibility to reduce population growths.
China is one of the few countries taking this seriously.
It's either responsible behavior or a future unimaginably catastrophic all-out war that will plunge the entire world into a chaos never before seen.

Yet another point is that we let the third world develop unhindered.
Balance needs to be restored, and this is most likely to happen one way or
another (mass stavation due to lack of food being produced, wars etc) within a couple of lifetimes.
It is "inhumane", but we need to exploit and oppress the vast majority of
countries in order to survive as a whole and evolve.
Not only would it be impossible to have the entire world as middle-class
without billions of robotic servants... If the entire world became like the
western world, we would stagnate.
Need is the mother of all inventions, and also a prerequisite for evolution.
Without need in the form of power balance... You get the picture, or you don't.
If you do, congratulations. If you don't, you're just... Well... One of the worker ants.
May the strongest, smartest and most creative people dominate.
(OR, someone can create vast legions of androids who can serve us).

Humanism is the most inhumane, ineffective and cruel system in the long run.
It's even worse than National Socialism, because humanism is in
effect trying to destroy our entire civilization, not just one of its peoples.


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NOTE

So. I'm really sticking my chin out to all of the stupid people out there.
I bet I will get many, many comments complaining about me being like Hitler or something like that...
I don't care for your opinions, period.
If you do not have anything positive to say, shut the **** up.

 

[Fluffywolf]

There's still plenty of people that believe the world is flat. I used to have a biology teacher that was associated with some movement that believed it as well.

The same biology teacher also told us that smoking marihuana 30 minutes to an hour prior to a test or examn, you would score much better.

 

[tinkerbell]

To answer your question, perhaps 90% of what nutritionists tell us.

Actually Nutritionist can't make it through a decade without contradition.... Look at the diet trends... F plans, 5 a day, super foods, etc etc

There most certainly have been times and civilisations that thought the earth was flat! Admittedly Columbus didn't believe this no. After all he wanted to sail the other way around the world to India.

Click!

I'm with that too, I went to a World is Flat history leacture - it was the funniest thing ever... great speaker....

There has also been times when it was thought to be oval too but that was intervening years

For an instance, those who are against stem cell research and "tampering" with genes...
They should go and live with the Amish and other fools.

I'm anti - they can't tell what the side effects are/next generation of side effects. If you are screwing with genes a whole different manner of evaluation needs to be developed - probably measuring multiple generations... screweing with our DNA could go HORRIBLE wrong.

 

[Valiant]

I'm anti - they can't tell what the side effects are/next generation of side effects. If you are screwing with genes a whole different manner of evaluation needs to be developed - probably measuring multiple generations... screweing with our DNA could go HORRIBLE wrong.

Congratulations. But that's just... Well. If you never gamble, you never win.
That's why there is a thing called "experimenting", and also "controlled environment".
As in: performing experiments in secure testing facilities.
If the results aren't great... Don't use it.
If it benefits mankind... YAY.

 

[tinkerbell]

Congratulations. But that's just... Well. If you never gamble, you never win.
That's why there is a thing called "experimenting", and also "controlled environment".
As in: performing experiments in secure testing facilities.
If the results aren't great... Don't use it.
If it benefits mankind... YAY.

kind of missing the point, the whole drug trial needs to be tested as the normals controlled environement can't test what isn't directly impacted....

Would you want to see the accidental increase of genetic disorders...potentially on mass infertility, etc etc... it can cause huge issues....

It's not like the treatments which have been historically developed, and when side effects have been wider than the research - the treatment is canned.

Multi generational research should be used for anything that has impact on future DNA, although some of the somatic therapy growing tissues and the likes which are not repoduced are probably ok

 

[Valiant]

Multi generational research should be used for anything that has impact on future DNA, although some of the somatic therapy growing tissues and the likes which are not repoduced are probably ok

Duh.

I think you misinterpreted what I said, and did it badly.
Does my reasoning imply that I have a shortsighted view on things?
I think it would be the opposite. I always tend to look at things and try to see how they will develop, and I think the long-term perspective is the right one.
I'm against short-term stuff without proper testing, and I have never implied differently.

What I said is that we need to experiment if we're ever going to develop anything useful. People who are against research = asshats.
All alterations are not bad ones. Real progress can be made.

Please, stop making lots of assumptions that require a ton of time and effort to straighten out.

 

[tinkerbell]

Duh.

I think you misinterpreted what I said, and did it badly.
Does my reasoning imply that I have a shortsighted view on things?
I think it would be the opposite. I always tend to look at things and try to see how they will develop, and I think the long-term perspective is the right one.
I'm against short-term stuff without proper testing, and I have never implied differently.

What I said is that we need to experiment if we're ever going to develop anything useful. People who are against research = asshats.
All alterations are not bad ones. Real progress can be made.

Please, stop making lots of assumptions that require a ton of time and effort to straighten out.

The reality of somatic research require longatidinal method beyond generation... Which by nature limits application in terms of speed, which for this type of ntervention is an absolute pre-requiste.

As for real progress and be made, so can real distruction... Just because something is possible doesn't mean its in the species intereste to do so.

Please stop being personal or I will get personal back, it is totally unessesary and lower my opinion of you

 

[Valiant]

Please stop being personal or I will get personal back, it is totally unessesary and lower my opinion of you

Hey, you started it.
I had this note with a sign in big red letters in my first post. It said I didn't want to discuss it. Then you wrote and got things wrong, assumed things that was not said, I said how you got things wrong, you freak out and think of it as personal.
It is not personal, I have no idea of who you are.
I never asked for your opinion on the matter, and I don't want it.
The reason that I wrote back is because I don't want others to get me wrong, too.

Just stop writing about this, OK? It is redundant, as it was from the beginning.
This thread isn't even about discussion. It' about stating one or several theories about what we personally think will be the next "flat earth" thing.

 

[Valiant]

YourLocalJesus

No one has made agressive derogatory remarks to you at all, you lower people perception of you by doing both of these. I don't read peoples signature but even if I did it wouldn't excuse your agression/attacking behaviour. It makes you seem like a teenager who has poor atriculation skills.

It was not in my signature, it is part of my first post.
Seriously, you need to read stuff before you comment.

Just quit it. I will not respond beyond this post.

 

[tinkerbell]

It was not in my signature, it is part of my first post.
Seriously, you need to read stuff before you comment.

Just quit it. I will not respond beyond this post.

I took it for your signature, but it still doesn't negate the agression in your posts... its not nessery you often have intersting views but make it look shit by saying - "They should go and live with the Amish and other fools" "research = asshats" and the sarkiness, not nessesary....

 

[FDG]

I mostly hope that excess consumption (obviously, "excess" is an arbitrary term; what I mean is: overeating to the point of obesity, buying 5 cars while being on debt, etc.) and the associated over-work of part of the population will naturally come to an end. I think that realizing this could let us re-distribute the resources (not in a socialist way! Just the individuals thinking for themselves, building associations out of own will, etc) in such a way to foster sustainable progress and happiness for everybody (well, most people at least. Excessively populated and extremely infertile (in terms of land) countries seem quite doomed, but you never know). I think we will look like foolish little ants (not everybody of course, just part of the population) trying to build bigger and bigger hives and amass more and more food without any real danger or need, trying to beat the next hive.

@YourLocalJesus: that's the kind of thinking that could be solved with my usual proposed remedy a nice beach, sunny climate, palms, coconuts and girls in bikini

 

[Argus]

Congratulations. But that's just... Well. If you never gamble, you never win.
That's why there is a thing called "experimenting", and also "controlled environment".
As in: performing experiments in secure testing facilities.
If the results aren't great... Don't use it.
If it benefits mankind... YAY.

Totally agree.

Where would all this funding be, you ask?

Research would replace social security.

 

[Argus]

I'm sure Victor might roll into here and say the MBTI...

 

[tinkerbell]

I'm sure Victor might roll into here and say the MBTI...

Don't be mean
and please don't encourage either...

 

[Argus]

This thread is doomed to explode into a flame war. "Postulate what you think are misconceptions about things we base reality off of. Oh, and be nice."