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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post

    Lol, no. Where do you pull your typings out of? It's called nerves, everyone has them, not just Fs. Especially when you are on a show like that; I know someone that was on a cycle and they said the whole thing was very grueling. She has them more than others because she is used to being alone and is nervous around other people. And E...you've got to be kidding. She was the most introverted person on the show.
    Nothing she did on the show was T typed at all, and she came over very F type the whole way through... I aprecaite she was under presure but really nothing T in their at all. T women under stress tend to get REALLY stoic - the lass with the stary mary eyes from an easlier season who was sent home for being old was possibly a T type.... Remember NT women are not common...

    As I said previously I thought she may be an over compensating I - because I reconned she was an I at the back of it, but E types can also do that... and given she just rambelled on and on (even and I under pressure would struggle), she may just be an E under stress, an ENFP I know does exactly that.

    I do think that this forum seems to over claim N' types and awful lot when they are guessing people (I do think that Marge is an N), but N is not all common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Nothing she did on the show was T typed at all, and she came over very F type the whole way through... I aprecaite she was under presure but really nothing T in their at all. T women under stress tend to get REALLY stoic - the lass with the stary mary eyes from an easlier season who was sent home for being old was possibly a T type.... Remember NT women are not common...
    Does she seem more feeling than analytical to you? It seemed she "mentalized" everything first, before feeling.

    I do think that this forum seems to over claim N' types and awful lot when they are guessing people (I do think that Marge is an N), but N is not all common.
    I agree with that. But it's kind of irrelevant since we both agree that she is at least xNxP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Does she seem more feeling than analytical to you? It seemed she "mentalized" everything first, before feeling.



    I agree with that. But it's kind of irrelevant since we both agree that she is at least xNxP.
    Gooodnes yes, NT's are stoic under fire, NTs are liable to get very withdrawn go inside themselves and try and solve the problem, they wont discuss it untill they have returned their equilibrium. I have a NT mate who didn't smile at her husband for 6 weeks because she was doing that type of stuff... So wouldn't be normal behavious.

    Naima might have been a T type - took them until the 11th episode to get her out from behind the repression...

    PS - at that age NT's are really uncomfortble with huggy stuff (unless with intimate partners)... they tend to back away or freeze up. Marge was snuggly

    PPS - I did think she had something wrong with her... something was WAY out of balance... can't say what gave me that impression, cos it's been a while since I saw it... but possibly some form of instability there

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Gooodnes yes, NT's are stoic under fire, NTs are liable to get very withdrawn go inside themselves and try and solve the problem, they wont discuss it untill they have returned their equilibrium. I have a NT mate who didn't smile at her husband for 6 weeks because she was doing that type of stuff... So wouldn't be normal behavious.
    Can't say that most NTs give me a stoic vibe, other than INTJs. I've mentioned before that INTPs seem much more unsettled vs. a type like INTJ. An INFJ probably comes off as more stoic than your average ENTP, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Can't say that most NTs give me a stoic vibe, other than INTJs. I've mentioned before that INTPs seem much more unsettled vs. a type like INTJ. An INFJ probably comes off as more stoic than your average ENTP, for example.
    Under stress NTs do, NTs are prone to retreating into their heads.... even the E's ..... It happens under extreme stress.. if theyare able to process the issue they will talk...

    Was it Ellise (?sp) in the first cycle was probably a T type maybe an NT - she got mad in the video rather than crying... It takes a lot to push NTs there...

    She wouldn't have been a J type at all.... way too chaotic...

    I'm not totally convinced she was an I type she may have been E under pressure. I'd think I types even under extreem pressure couldn't talk/ramble that much.

    So definate F type from me, i'm between camps on te I/E....

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    to the OP.. I do feel that way quite frequently. I'm not always in touch with social cues of what to talk about and what not to talk about. I have tons of little tidbits popping into and out of my head constantly. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've had really odd looks from people when we might be talking about pleasentries and I come out with my views on some obscure movie I assume everyone has seen (and I'm freaking excited about it in that moment), because a general mood of the conversation reminded me of a character or something. I have no explanation for why in that particular moment somethign seems so incredibly intriguing. It just does. Because of the crazy looks from people who don't quite get me, it makes me a bit more aware when I'm around new people. I'm a bit more reserved and uncomfortable. I probably make myself more uncomfortable because I'm having to put so much effort into being aware. I wonder how evident that is, now that I'm thinking about it, to the people I'm around.

    Of course, I have the types of friends, like my ENFJ BBBFF, who encourage me to say whatever is on my mind. We lived together for years and would spend hours and hours almost daily just bantering and throwing ideas back and forth at each other. That was an incredible experience and I'm glad that I had that sort of relationship with another person. It would definitly be the ideal to find more people in my every day life who are encouraging of those types of exchanges and of my natural randomness. I certainly value it in others!

    I guess the big thing for me is that I wish I didn't have to have that weird awkwardness there all the time with people I don't know well. I guess I'm a bit more socially aware than I care to be. I'm envious of the people who are able to just be graceful in all of their interactions and if they aren't, they don't really care anyway.

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    Well I don't talk at all like that girl in the video. She seems WAY too manic. I mean, I get nervous energy that may make my voice jitter, but she has nervous energy that just carries her on and on and on. I say either ENTP or ENFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Under stress NTs do, NTs are prone to retreating into their heads.... even the E's ..... It happens under extreme stress.. if theyare able to process the issue they will talk...

    Was it Ellise (?sp) in the first cycle was probably a T type maybe an NT - she got mad in the video rather than crying... It takes a lot to push NTs there...
    Yes, Elise is INTJ (as well as Ukrainian Elina, from Cycle 11). I already had her pegged as a clear example of INTJ, and I believe it was Economica that asked her to take the MBTI on her blog, and it came out INTJ. But I think it's pushing it to believe that all NTs behave the same way under stress, these are four very distinct types here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Well I don't talk at all like that girl in the video. She seems WAY too manic. I mean, I get nervous energy that may make my voice jitter, but she has nervous energy that just carries her on and on and on. I say either ENTP or ENFP.
    Okay, one INTP says it's like them, one says it's not. So 1-1.

    She's not an extravert, for sure. She kept to herself the whole show, except to talk with another IxFx contestant, Analeigh. Most people didn't know her well and the other contestants after the show remarked that she seemed to have a wall up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Yes, Elise is INTJ (as well as Ukrainian Elina, from Cycle 11). I already had her pegged as a clear example of INTJ, and I believe it was Economica that asked her to take the MBTI on her blog, and it came out INTJ. But I think it's pushing it to believe that all NTs behave the same way under stress, these are four very distinct types here...


    Okay, one INTP says it's like them, one says it's not. So 1-1

    She's not an extravert, for sure. She kept to herself the whole show, except to talk with another IxFx contestant, Analeigh. Most people didn't know her well and the other contestants after the show remarked that she seemed to have a wall up.
    Elina's J type swampped the poor girl...

    I agree that it can't be over generalised but I know a hell of a lot of NT's (skewed to men but that goes). NT's go into their head... it's how they work... they don't cry buckets... there is a thread on here (which might be ENTPs - have a look). But NTs are uncomfortable with emotions - quite a few struggle to cry at parents funerals and that type of thing, tears are a BIG thing let along complete emotional meltdowns all the time.

    Have you posted it to the NF's and see what they think? I am really, really sure she is an F.....

    In fairness to your third paragraph, possibly because she was being treated badly by the other girls who were jelous as hell of her..

    PS - why do you think she is a T type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Okay, one INTP says it's like them, one says it's not. So 1-1.
    That is definitely not the way I talk when I'm interested in something. In fact I cant see myself acting the way she is, there's just too much manic energy there. Usually I speak calmly and rationally even when I am talking about a subject I'm interested in.

    The other day at work I asked my co-worker(who has some medical experience), out of the blue, "With unlimited resources what would be the best way to stop bleeding." I had cut myself just before and the question just popped into my head.

    I'm sure that isn't in the same spirit as the long winded discussions about obscure subjects, but its probably related.

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