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    it's possible....

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    I guess we may have telepathy and think how ignorat we were now to think it wasn't possible......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    In someone's thread that was posted here, an ENTP was described somewhat like that. That is, the "kid" that "leeches" of his big-time parents' wealth.

    Being an INTP myself with strong E and Fi, I often associate myself, and to a certain extent, empathize with ENTPs, ENFPs, and INFPs. They're the other archetypes that I can easily relate to other than my own.

    I thought that it was a smart statement. I know a significant number of ENxPs myself and this is something that I observed to be true, but for the fear of having a hasty inductive reasoning, I tend to overlook, sometimes ignore, that observation.

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    Basic profile would be something like this.
    Has a good bearing. You know that the person is considerably educated. The person is considerably articulate and you'll know immediately that he came from a good family background in terms of affluence.

    But closer inspection will show you the difference. The person dresses more casually. He isn't the one who would readily acknowledge his parents' wealth (maybe because the accusation of leeching is bad enough).

    He knows the mindset of a person who has a strong Te, but in reality, he's really anti-corporate himself (sometimes even advocates socialism) and would even advocate the path to least resistance (Ti).

    I have a hunch that if the ENxP person grew up in a Te heavy family, he might see something wrong with the cognitive process (e.g., Te's advocacy of THE ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS), therefore, consequently making himself advocate the polar opposite = Process over results (Ti), or maybe to some people, Fi (the known weak cognitive process of someone having a strong Te).

    Did any ENxP here feel that at some point (assuming that your parents could be rich Te monsters), you need to develop whatever weakness they have so that there'd be a sense of equilibrium in the family?

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    Anyway, I know that NP is quite childish. At first, it was hard for me to embrace this (even if it may be inherent) because I was taught responsibility in life (SJ) way too early. I think this may have caused a sort of drawback in me later in life by rekindling a childish playroom I wish I have more of. I think that's part of what makes me NTP now.
    ok, well I will admit some of this applies to me. My family was very affluent and I think helped to instill a poor outlook on money in me. Being an ENTP female, i think my father wasn't quite sure how to reach me so our way of communicating was money. He (intp) instead of reaching out to me emotionally, bought me stuff. There never was any talk about deep personal issues, but do you want this toy? Big money bribes to do anything, from taking out the trash to getting good grades. (fwiw, I never got good grades even with the bribes lol) From a very early age this was our dynamic.

    I did break away and joined the military at 17 because I didn't want to be a part of that, I wanted to work for my own money and be my own person. But I had no idea how to manage money at all. NO idea. It was such a foreign concept to me partly from how I was raised and partly from personality, I have always thought money will always be there or I could always find it. Which is partly true, I do have a knack for falling into money or luck lol. But as a youngster, it took me a good five years to learn how to pay bills, pay rent -- that these were things I had to do in order to prevent mass chaos that had seemed to rule my life for a long time. And to be honest, I still have problems, not for lack of money, just organization and actually taking seriously that something needs to be paid or remembering bill time. But not nearly as bad as when i was younger.

    People in my family have said to me that I wouldnt be so bold to do the things that I have done in my life without knowing there was money to fall back on. I don't think they really get it, I don't sit there and think about it, my father's money is his and I've always known that. As a grown up, I don't go to him for bailouts, it is all me here and now in my life. But people assume and place their projections on what they would do if they were in my position, but whatever, it isn't me and not what I've done.

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    I can see where this idea would come from,but I think it's more related to the general optimism of the ENTP. From the outside this can look like the person leads a charmed life, never having difficulties and always seems to get what they want: that they are lucky. This isn't the case at all,I think we can all attest to the fact that ENTPs don't any less of problems- or any less severe problems - than other personality types, we just deal with them differently.

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    well, I've been told I've got the "bearing" a million times, and the casual twist is there alright... but my family have always been poor, poor, poor.

    Whilst there's blue blood and old money recently in the woodpile on my dad's side, most of the money was lost in the fortunes of the world wars and by the time my parents were married our branch of the family was barely scraping upper middle class (financially speaking, though socially more "lower upper"); I never saw any of that side of the family, as they disowned my dad for marrying my mom and my life consisted of just about managing to maintain a working class existence, whilst I've fallen even beneath that for long periods of my own life.

    So... whilst I never had the money, privilege or other perks of "breeding", I was raised by somebody who had had them as a child. And the same values, expectations of self, others and the world, the same sense of sorta... well, not sure how to put it really, just sorta entitlement I guess, to do as I please whilst at the same time a massive weight of duty to carry the family name and reputation and to live up to the achievements of ancestors and all that, and the same "dignity" was beaten into me as a child.

    I've failed it all dismally, obviously...

    I think it's actually those expectations and values that I was raised with that have MADE me poor, to be honest... they're good values for people that have an endless and large supply of money, but it's not a good idea to raise somebody who's destined to struggle to make ends meet most of their lives, to value reckless open-handedness, old-money detachment from material things and a gut-deep distrust of both the self-made man and working for an employer. They'd have done me a favour if they'd raised me as a working class urchin with material aspirations, then maybe I'd have put enough store in money to have been able to improve my lot, and KEEP it improved for more than a few months each time! The blue blood however, unfortunately, doesn't get his sense of self worth from his money... he gets it from his blood, which can't be taken away... so who needs money?

    HOWEVER, those traits are also shared by my siblings - ENFP, ISFJ and ENFJ. So how does that help the theory?

    Curiously however, not by my elder half-sister (ESFP), who has a different father but didn't know it until she was in her 20's... *scratches chin*
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    LOL.

    Cypocalypse, I like you already damnit.

    My family has business running in their blood! Especially my mother (INFJ) and she wants to make our name "prestigious" while me, on the other hand,is trying to make a difference in mankind and life in general, I could careless about a name! I guess this is why my mind lies in business, but my heart lies in science.

    Even though I could be taken care of, I'm actually trying to steer away and get on my own track; financial independence.

    To put my own ego aside, yes I get spoiled a lot, a whole lot. By friends and family. I've been taken across the world, but I never ever ask for these things. I'm actually trying to steer away from this and make my own world so to speak and start giving back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchitectofFate View Post
    im pretty spoiled, only child... so yeah
    Same with me. One of the reasons I had an early grudge about the leader (TJ) archetypal life is the publicity a TJ gets. I was kinda forced into it and it generates me unwanted publicity/attention.

    An only child gets too much attention already. As if that weren't enough.

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    no, it just doesn't hold water... unless all the ENTP's here claiming rich family have siblings who are also mostly ENTP's... I have four and none of them are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Yes - Eck is right, I meant maturing into full blown adulhood. Right now you are moving toward young adulhood. But after that you move into mature adulthood, marry, have kids, have a stable job, be a real grown up....

    Difficult for P types...

    Eck I'm with you time you spend before you settle is a treasure....

    I'm totally bummed, I can't for the life of me see the bit about baby/kids thinking being unstructured wich allows a wider understanding... I only read it about 10 days ago... really annoying....

    Are none of you ENTP type going to add to the useless information thread (not a lot of people know that).... I'd have thought you lot would have a ton of useless info....
    Theres still that much to come. Bloody hell. Well atleast life won't be as boring as i thought it might.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    What do you do with a bunch of ENTPs on a thread together? You ask a really odd question. Sorry I'm way off topic now...

    Guys what do you think the equivelent of "the world is flat" for our times is? What do you think in the future will be shown to be mind blowingly wrong...

    Like we assuming thought is in the brain or something ....
    In all honosty global warming. Not that its not real but the fact that people completely overreacted to it.
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