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    Default Smartest in the world work Blue collar jobs

    I've heard over 75% of mensa members work blue collar jobs.

    Then I've heard of people like Rick Rosner with about 190 IQ who went through periods of living off dog food, and returned to high school 4 times voluntarily lol... and ironically losing the $16,000 question on who wants to be a millionaire, then went on to sue them for the flawed question.

    Chris Langan the bouncer for 20 years with a 190-210 IQ, Highest in America. I think he's a farmer now though.
    Smartest Man in the World Espouses Virtues of Eugenics - One Man's Blog
    I can see why people don't like smart people. It might be that since this guy is supposedly on a level that makes me look retarded that I look at him weird, the weird way that other people often look at me. Or it is possible that they really arn't that smart, I don't really know.

    The man with the highest IQ in the world presently is Korean Physicist / Engineer Kim Ung-yong, with a verified IQ of 210. Apparently he felt that he missed out on his whole childhood and was super alienated with no friends at all. So he quit his job at NASA and went back to Korea to join some clubs and try to "fit in".


    What do you guy's think? Do they seem "smart"? Or just plain crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    I've heard over 75% of mensa members work blue collar jobs.
    Doubt it. Remember where you heard this?

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    That's not too far away. In my burned-out years, I've got slightly below MENSA results. In other years (perhaps now) I'd get +0,75..+1,00 SD MENSA marks, in other words, I'd qualify easily.

    (You know depression lowers one's IQ results).


    Because of my burnout, I've worked lowly jobs for few years. Telephone interviewer. Researcher assistant. Secretary. (I don't know which is the feminine, Secretary or Secreteer). But, none of those are blue-collar jobs. Lowly waged, low jobs alltogether. yes.
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    Here's some discussion on it.
    Thought Experiments : The Blog: Are Mensa Members Thick?

    I don't see many people disagreeing either, they are mostly just giving explanations on why it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    What do you guy's think? Do they seem "smart"? Or just plain crazy.
    Answering this question alone:

    Overall, someone can be (academically) intelligent, yet turn out less successful due to poor judgments. (Academically) intelligent people could be found in the most unexpected places, while their polar opposites could be working in the highest executive positions. It all depends on how the individual utilizes their gifts.
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    definitely understandable

    definitely felt like in hs i got more respect for getting a high batting average during baseball season, or getting into fights where i win, vs. getting good grades or sat scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethe View Post
    Answering this question alone:

    Overall, someone can be (academically) intelligent, yet turn out less successful due to poor judgments. (Academically) intelligent people could be found in the most unexpected places, while their polar opposites could be working in the highest executive positions. It all depends on how the individual utilizes their gifts.
    Yea like that girl who mentioned her CFO was an ESFP. I guess that's what happens when the majority, consisting of average minded people take control of the system. It becomes an ass kissing game to get to the top, not actual capabilities.

    Oh and I wouldn't consider some of these guys academically intelligent, they are autodidacts that learned outside of academia, but happened to be smarter than those who learn through academia by academia's standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethe View Post
    Answering this question alone:

    Overall, someone can be (academically) intelligent, yet turn out less successful due to poor judgments. (Academically) intelligent people could be found in the most unexpected places, while their polar opposites could be working in the highest executive positions. It all depends on how the individual utilizes their gifts.
    Yeah but statistically, academically intelligent people are more likely to have college degrees, and in turn are more likely to end up with high-income jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    I guess that's what happens when the majority, consisting of average minded people take control of the system. It becomes an ass kissing game to get to the top, not actual capabilities.
    Yes, isn't it a challenge to maintain integrity when you're at the top (governments, lawyers, etc.)? If I wanted to keep my honesty, I'd try to seek alternatives to the ass-kissing game. This is where traits like resourcefulness, understanding, flexibility and perseverance are highly crucial to develop on.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Yeah but statistically, academically intelligent people are more likely to have college degrees, and in turn are more likely to end up with high-income jobs.
    Certainly. They've been groomed to think like a person who believes they deserve the best.

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    *Edit: Let me find a semi-related article on this topic. I'll post it up.

    *2nd Edit: Poverty Grows Among Children of Immigrants in US. Once my other computer loads, I'll provide the link to a better article. I wanted to illuminate how "intelligence" plays a factor into another issue: US foreigners. What seems to be the most popular variables in deciding career achievements amongst the immigrants are their parent's educational level, family structure and inevitably, class.

    I don't have time to write out a complete detailed analysis, but briefly:

    Two immigrant families, A and B, with the same IQ level and financial income are starting out in one area.
    • Family A: White collar bent, values education, values career success
    • Family B: Blue collar bent, values 'real life' jobs, values immediate family success


    + Family A will push their children onto higher education and white collared achievements, despite the family's lack of funding. They consistently aim to make their children to become more successful than they currently are. With the right social networking and encouragement, these children will have a higher chance of landing better jobs than family B.

    + Family B will push their children to study enough as needed to work. Higher education is deemed as a waste of investment and the parents will ultimately desire to have their children supporting the family once the opportunity arises. Challenging them academically is not their number one priority. Naturally, they will remain in the blue-collared jobs because they are not pushing themselves towards the higher goals.

    Bottom line: Intelligence can quicken the learning process, but there are other factors (disabilities, social disadvantages, social support, individual judgment, values, attitudes, etc.) that contribute to how someone's life turns out.
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    There's also a film, Real Women Have Curves, discussing this matter.

    "The coming-of-age plot revolves around Ana Garcia, a Mexican-American teenager living in an East Los Angeles barrio. While attending Beverly Hills High School, where she is an accomplished student, she works in near-sweatshop conditions in her sister's dress factory alongside her mother, Carmen (Ontiveros), who considers this to be her younger daughter's vocation. But Ana, encouraged by her teacher Mr. Guzman (George Lopez), has dreams of attending Columbia. Before achieving her goal, she must try to balance her mother's traditional view of women with her own contemporary ideas while dealing with self-image issues and exploring a new romantic relationship." - RWHC Summary
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    It seems that those with high intelligence suffer more. Well then why don't they use their intelligence to make their lives much more resourceful.

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