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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    I think it deserves a little bit more reverence. Making racial jokes about the book and ranting on how poorly written it was (which is an opinion) is not just stemmed from a lack of understanding, but more as a display of ignorance.
    Right, but aren't they two sides of the same coin? I agree with you, but I'm saying instead of looking at it as intimidating/ poor behavior, look at it as you have an insight into the human mind that they demonstrably lack, and therefore you have a deeper understanding of the novel.

    In your position, I would validate their viewpoints and then counter. "You may feel the book was poorly written, but I don't think that's what's important. What is important is what it tells us about the character, the author and ourselves. The book was written the way it was for a reason. I ask, would it be the same book; would it get its point across as well as it does if it had been written differently?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    No.

    Stop assuming things when you don't know.


    Lol, now who's being critical? You're being very critical about the posts in this thread that are not to your liking, ironically. I wasn't assuming, just offering a possible explanation. And even if I was...you're assuming you know their type as well. If you're saying things like that in the class, no wonder it's full of critiques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Right, but aren't they two sides of the same coin? I agree with you, but I'm saying instead of looking at it as intimidating/ poor behavior, look at it as you have an insight into the human mind that they demonstrably lack, and therefore you have a deeper understanding of the novel.

    In your position, I would validate their viewpoints and then counter. "You may feel the book was poorly written, but I don't think that's what's important. What is important is what it tells us about the character, the author and ourselves. The book was written the way it was for a reason. I ask, would it be the same book; would it get its point across as well as it does if it had been written differently?"
    I couldn't agree more.

    The high chances are that they missed the whole point of the story. Most novels are meant to be read with the time period and the author's intent in mind.
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    intuition-less NTs for the win.
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    The racism definitely needs nixed. There's no way that's okay.

    The other stuff, really, classes like that are a refuge for the intellectual kids. It's like their little tree house where they can do the equivalent of "girls have cooties" for big kids instead of little boys. Yes, they will be in for a rude awakening in some of their college classes and IRL, but right now they are a few over-sized brains swimming around in a sea of gonads. Some of them can't even speak freely at home. It's annoying as heck, but they need their tree house, too.
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    They don't sound terribly intellectual to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    They don't sound terribly intellectual to me.
    Conversely, that doesn't stop them from classifying themselves as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Lol, now who's being critical? You're being very critical about the posts in this thread that are not to your liking, ironically.
    Ehhh. Idk about that. Critical yes, but some posters here have made it apparent that they're not in this thread for constructive criticism, and when you feel even a bit out of your element or are talking about having felt so, baiting is... intensely irritating, and I get the feeling that that's exactly why it's being done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethe View Post
    Conversely, that doesn't stop them from classifying themselves as such.
    Ain't that the truth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    Ain't that the truth!
    Ah, the woes of the human perception.
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