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    Intentions can get you pretty far.. but the problem is, relying on intentions and people understanding your intentions means people have to assume for you. People generally never assume what you want them to. It leaves for a lot of flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    Intentions can get you pretty far.. but the problem is, relying on intentions and people understanding your intentions means people have to assume for you. People generally never assume what you want them to. It leaves for a lot of flaws.
    Right. That's one of the reasons I try to rely on image instead. But it does mean I can't be as honest with people as I'd like.

    I guess that means there's three ways people typically go through life... clumsy and honest, pissing people off by being yourself; polite and well-liked, wearing a mask and never letting anyone see the real you; or trying to balance the two in various ways, never getting the full benefits or disadvantages of either one.

    I tried the first up until age 12, didn't get me far. I've used the second ever since, and it's gotten me this far. Now I'm contemplating whether to stick with it, or move on to the third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Right. That's one of the reasons I try to rely on image instead. But it does mean I can't be as honest with people as I'd like.

    I guess that means there's three ways people typically go through life... clumsy and honest, pissing people off by being yourself; polite and well-liked, wearing a mask and never letting anyone see the real you; or trying to balance the two in various ways, never getting the full benefits or disadvantages of either one.

    I tried the first up until age 12, didn't get me far. I've used the second ever since, and it's gotten me this far. Now I'm contemplating whether to stick with it, or move on to the third.
    I suppose it's all situational. I guess in the end find one that benefits you the most and stick to it.

    In conclusion to the OP: If you're not wrong, you're still not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therationaledge View Post
    I once told my girlfriend that I saw getting the truth or information out of people like opening a lock

    Kind the right key, and apply the right amount of pressure, and whula!

    She kinda got insulted, saying I shouldn't view people as locks to open.

    Is what I did actually offensive? (I have my own opnion but am interested in what you all think)
    Try explaining to your friend what a metaphor is, she does not seem to know.

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    lol...you sounded manipulative. id bet 50 bucks that your gf does it too...you just generalized it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmy View Post
    Try explaining to your friend what a metaphor is, she does not seem to know.
    To an more sensitive romantic type that sounds cold and manipualtive "I say just the right things, mae them feel comfortable, then once I know what I want Im through with them."

    Now imagine hannibal lecter saying that. Now you get why she was offended.
    It was really just poor wording on his part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therationaledge View Post
    I once told my girlfriend that I saw getting the truth or information out of people like opening a lock

    Kind the right key, and apply the right amount of pressure, and whula!

    She kinda got insulted, saying I shouldn't view people as locks to open.

    Is what I did actually offensive? (I have my own opnion but am interested in what you all think)
    I think one the problem is that metaphors can be interpreted a variety of ways. So what you meant may not be the same as what she interpreted. For example if you meant:

    "Trying to understand people involves knowing the right questions to ask. Once I find the right question I find the information opens up just like a key opens a lock."

    I don't think anyone would be offended by such a thing. On the other hand if you meant:

    "People are just small obstacles to me getting whatever I want. All I need is to manipulate and pressure them and I get what I want just as easily as a key applying pressure to a lock."

    I think a lot of people would find you to be a jerk in this instance. So if your girlfriend is offended by what you said, it might be best to clarify what you really meant, so that you can both laugh it off as a misunderstanding. On the other hand if you really are a jerk it might be best just to keep things to yourself. In the words of Jack Handy, "Cindy was offended when I said the word 'puke', but that is what I thought her dinner tasted like."
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    Lol.

    Thanks guys. She was offended at the time but has pretty much gotten over it, dunno if she even remembers cause it was months before the thread started.

    I guess what I mean is it is like picking a lock because its part gentle and part forceful, depending on whom it is, what situation.

    Basically what I do is find the way to make someone tell the truth, ussually it is to make them comfertable or make them think its thier idea, stuff like that, though on occasion I have...erm...pickaxed a mine for gold as opposed to pick a lock.

    But thats ussually in a situation where I have no sympathy for someone, because they dont deserve it. But this is a rarety.

    I would say it is because she thought i was objectifying people, which I was I suppose.

    "Putting together a puzzle" sounds less intimidating, but also seems like lying because thats more like figuring something out on your own, with clues, which I do too.

    BAsically it came down to me being honest, too honest apparentyl (though it was without thinking and will probably happen again) because thats how i view getting the truth out of someone. They are resistant, the lock. The information is past the door, and I must find a way into the door.

    The thing is though that I don't acctually have to do that too often at all, I can ussually put it together liek a puzzle...

    Maybe i should call it "befriending the mutant sea bass with lasers fixed to thier heads to get crackers on the other side of the pool"

    I think it sounds catchy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by therationaledge View Post
    I once told my girlfriend that I saw getting the truth or information out of people like opening a lock

    Kind the right key, and apply the right amount of pressure, and whula!

    She kinda got insulted, saying I shouldn't view people as locks to open.

    Is what I did actually offensive? (I have my own opnion but am interested in what you all think)
    Besides being taken in a completely different manner, I do not view this as offensive at all. I tend to have problems with my wording and the like, and my friends tend to get offended.

    I, however, see it as perfectly normal.
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