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    Default What might a depressed ENT look like?

    More importantly, what would a depressed/despondent adolescent or early adult (18-21) ENT appear?
    Would they be prone to emotional explosions?
    Would they hide?
    What, if anything, might define them?

    What if an ENT grew up in a household where they weren't the smartest (because as much as it seems to me here that NTs play at all being geniuses, in the real world, not many are)? How do you think that would effect them?

    What's the difference between a depressed ENT and an ESxP?

    I'm quite curious what you all have to say on this.
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    Self destruction, isolation, and reaching out, all at the same time.
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    I bounce back and forth between rather excessive extreemes of depression sometimes, and back to normal again. Not consistant enough though to be considered clinical, yet far too deep to just be standard being upset either.

    Main traits I've noticed from such:

    - apathy, to the point of not caring about eating/sleeping
    - self mutilation, usually in the form of pins or something small so as to not leave permenent damage
    - suicide by proxy; I'd never kill myself, however taking a character in a game that's supposed to represent me, and killing them over and over for hours on end seems to occur semi regularly, tending to scare anyone who notices it and unfortunately, due to apathy, I just really don't care about it
    - brooding and self loathing
    - unable to smile, or fake any sort of enjoyment, even if trying to
    - withdraw into self heavily
    - only real interaction with others is to push them away, primarily to test if they're willing to put the effort into trying to cling on; the answer to being told to 'go away' at this point is to actually say 'no' no matter how tiring it is. It's a mental and emotional test to see how long it takes before people give up on yeu.
    - focus far too heavily on failures, and anything positive one has done just doesn't seem to hold any weight or merit
    - generally very reserved and quiet, may even refuse to speak to anyone for some time to see if they even notice, one of many attempts to cry for help and attention without directly asking
    - Primarily seeking justification of self, and approval of those they trust, with many elaborate tests designed to get these indirectly. Having to ask for a compliment taints its' value to be meaningless.
    *Edit* forgot a few
    - Become a blame hog, accepting blame for things that the individual couldn't possibly have had any control over, and obviously isn't their fault, but accepts it as their fault anyway just so they have one more thing to feel bad about
    - WANTS to feel bad, and on some bizzare level almost enjoys it, seeking the consolation of others, as it's one of the very rare few times of actually allowing sensitivities to show without remorse

    These're just for myself, but that's whot I'd expect to see for most.



    As for the rest of whot yeu stated, about growing up 'not being the smartest', I dunno I haven't experienced that myself. I'm sure it's occured at least on a few occasions for various reasons though.

    Keep in mind that technically it doesn't neccesarily mean they ARE smart, it means that they put whot they HAVE to exceptional use, and value learning, which generally translates into becomming smarter. It doesn't neccesarily guarantee it from the start though.

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    Could a depressed ENT not care for reading or learning or anything intellectual outside of theorizing why everything in life is pointless and why whoever sucks?
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    Nah not even interested in that. It mostly boils down to not wanting to actually do ANYTHING, as anything yeu do, yeu'll just screw up.

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    Anytime I have had hard times, I imediately go into clear the room mode. I call this a "power surge."

    I become udesireable un bearable and cannot focus on anything other than pushing every last person away. This will continue until I suceed too. Once everyone is gone and everything is quiet, I reflect and reflect, and reflect, till whatever is bothering me is solved, only periodically peeking out to bounce a theory, or test a solution. Then its back to the drawing board.

    To be honest, as an ENT, I don't think I have ever really been depressed, sad, deeply sad maybe. No matter how much I try and dwell though, I keep coming up with new ideas and solutions. Seeing the problem as the source of my discontent and being driven to solve that problem to make it stop.

    It makes for this cycle,

    1) Wtf just happened
    2) This sucks ass, why does this suck ass!?!
    3) Everyone get the fuck away
    4) Wait but what if I try this
    5) Optimistic attempts

    This either leads to:

    A) It worked and I move on problem solved.

    B) It doesn't work
    Get massively frustrated
    Then what's the point
    Then the cycle repeates. until it finally reaches A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuni View Post
    Nah not even interested in that. It mostly boils down to not wanting to actually do ANYTHING, as anything yeu do, yeu'll just screw up.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Anytime I have had hard times, I imediately go into clear the room mode. I call this a "power surge."

    I become udesireable un bearable and cannot focus on anything other than pushing every last person away. This will continue until I suceed too. Once everyone is gone and everything is quiet, I reflect and reflect, and reflect, till whatever is bothering me is solved, only periodically peeking out to bounce a theory, or test a solution. Then its back to the drawing board.

    To be honest, as an ENT, I don't think I have ever really been depressed, sad, deeply sad maybe. No matter how much I try and dwell though, I keep coming up with new ideas and solutions. Seeing the problem as the source of my discontent and being driven to solve that problem to make it stop.

    It makes for this cycle,

    1) Wtf just happened
    2) This sucks ass, why does this suck ass!?!
    3) Everyone get the fuck away
    4) Wait but what if I try this
    5) Optimistic attempts

    This either leads to:

    A) It worked and I move on problem solved.

    B) It doesn't work
    Get massively frustrated
    Then what's the point
    Then the cycle repeates. until it finally reaches A.
    Sounds a lot like what INTs do... it seems rooted in the perfectionist/obsessive tendencies.

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    Really unaware of reasonable limits on using the "ENT power" which is making everyone else look and feel like shit about themselves on command.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briochick View Post
    Could a depressed ENT not care for reading or learning or anything intellectual outside of theorizing why everything in life is pointless and why whoever sucks?
    Yes. Just an overwhelming ennui; a feeling that nothing satisfies and why should it? It's all pointless and meaningless anyway. The more one throws oneself into exotic, mysterious, energetic, expensive pursuits, the emptier the soul seems to become, the bigger the smiles and laughs on the outside. Often bad Si takes over, and one seeks to establish oneself as a pillar of some community or family, though no matter how much one embeds oneself into any community, one never truly feels part of it - no matter what the opinion of its other members. Trying to feel something, but just dead inside. I'm afraid a truly depressed ENTP might not even seem depressed at all on the outside, because they'd be doing their best to avoid having people fussing over them and offering help that they then feel guilt tripped into accepting, but which they know is useless.

    Just can't attach to anything or anyone. Seems to be a hive of activity, but is not actually even attempting or thinking about doing the things that they know they truly want to do, deeming them pointless, like everything else, and doomed to failure.

    ThatGirl's cycles seem familiar as well.
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