[ENTJ] ENTJ videos

[chegra]

I agree, too. There is NO way in hell that he's an NT, much less an ENTJ. The guy is as SP and ESTP as it gets. (No ENTJ would get shot five times without being important or necessary in any way. )

Cosign

That is what I thought first ESTP.

 

[chegra]

YouTube - Watchmen - Ozymandias fan TV spot

 

[murkrow]

There is no way 50 cent is an ENTJ - he's an ESTP.

^ Someone with a brain.

I agree, too. There is NO way in hell that he's an NT, much less an ENTJ. The guy is as SP and ESTP as it gets. (No ENTJ would get shot five times without being important or necessary in any way. )

Cosign

That is what I thought first ESTP.

What makes him SP?

 

[Valiant]

What makes him SP?

I would counter the question. What makes him an NT?
I just don't see that connection at all.
He's shallow, opportunistic, sleazy... No refined taste.
He does seem street-smart but not intelligent.
He used to be a petty criminal... No education.
Low moral standards... Don't get me wrong.
ENTJs can be evil. But not petty, stupid criminals.
Few, if any, walk that muddy road.
He's just not an ENTJ by any standards.

"But he's just a product of his environment!"
No ENTJ would believe that or accept such nonsense.
We create or bend our environment, or replace it.
How many of you ENTJs have practically raised yourselves
with common sense and a sense of where and what you want to become?
I know I have, and most of the ones I know have.
When I think about it, this is what most strong individuals must do,
in order to truly become their own man or woman;
which is what pretty much defines the ENTJ.
The need and struggle to rule, to conquer, to learn and to grow.
At least the healthy ones who can truly claim to be ENTJ.
You can't exactly call that guy 'healthy', by any standards.

Also, most real ENTJs are good with words and writing.
What he does with words is not only ugly, it is atrocious.
If he had any EJ in him, he would truly detest his works.

 

[The Ü™]

Henry Rollins is clearly an Artisan. ESTP or ISTP.

 

[Jaguar]

I would counter the question. What makes him an NT?
I just don't see that connection at all.
He's shallow, opportunistic, sleazy... No refined taste.
He does seem street-smart but not intelligent.
He used to be a petty criminal... No education.
Low moral standards... Don't get me wrong.
ENTJs can be evil. But not petty, stupid criminals.
Few, if any, walk that muddy road.
He's just not an ENTJ by any standards.

Agreed.

 

[htb]

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFnXdfWcIzk&feature=related"]Harrison Storms and Joe Shea[/YOUTUBE]

This excerpt from From the Earth to the Moon includes an exchange between two ENTJs, as only the type would have it. The scene in question begins at 1:15 and sparks fly at 2:50.

 

[Venom]

Henry Rollins is clearly an Artisan. ESTP or ISTP.

i dunno... i identified a lot with his rant.

...well maybe more than a lot...

...maybe...maybe too much

 

[Venom]

it seems that james rebhorn often plays EXTJ characters (refer to HTB's video)

"Rebhorn is known for portraying WASPy stereotypes, lawyers, politicians, doctors, and military men, and often plays the bad guy. He has delivered equally notable performances in a variety of other roles, including that of a brutal serial killer on NBC's Law & Order (he would later return to the show as defense attorney Charles Garnett) and a shipping magnate in The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999). One of his best known performances came in the popular 1996 film, Independence Day, where he played Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki. He acted against Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman (1992), and was also in the final scene of My Cousin Vinny (1992) with Marisa Tomei; thus, he acted in scenes with the 1993 Oscar winners for both best actor and best supporting actress. He also appeared again with Al Pacino in Carlito's Way (1993) the following year."

 

[Kangirl]

Yeah, I've got absolutely no problem seeing Henry Rollins as an ENTJ. That entire rant could have sprung from my head as well. And hey, even if he is another type, I still love him.

Same with 50 Cent - I'm not making any claims to *knowing* but he could easily be ENTJ as I see it. Are the NTs who see it as impossible for him to be NT possibly being influenced by their own dislike of his music/persona? That dude, as someone else mentioned, has crafted an extremely lucrative persona, and that seems ENTJ ish to me, it seems sort of conscious/planned with him.

 

[Tyrant]

Also, most real ENTJs are good with words and writing.
What he does with words is not only ugly, it is atrocious.
If he had any EJ in him, he would truly detest his works.

In what way are they atrocious (I'm not disagreeing with you)? Would you also disagree with Eminem being any kind of NF? He writes songs about raping women with umbrellas.

 

[Jaguar]

Yeah, I've got absolutely no problem seeing Henry Rollins as an ENTJ. That entire rant could have sprung from my head as well. And hey, even if he is another type, I still love him.

Same with 50 Cent - I'm not making any claims to *knowing* but he could easily be ENTJ as I see it. Are the NTs who see it as impossible for him to be NT possibly being influenced by their own dislike of his music/persona? That dude, as someone else mentioned, has crafted an extremely lucrative persona, and that seems ENTJ ish to me, it seems sort of conscious/planned with him.

Rollins is no more ENTJ than .50 cent.
The video that was posted is an act. It is not who he is.
He's said so, many times in interviews.

Just because someone rants, or makes money, doesn't make them ENTJ.

ESTP's can not only rant as well as ENTJ's, they could probably outdo them.
It might behoove you to do some research about ESTP-ENTJ looking similar.

When does an ESTP look like an ENTJ? When does an ENTJ look like an ESTP?
Article here:
ESTP - ENTJ / ENTJ - ESTP

Months ago, there was a thread devoted to the ESTP/ENTJ topic.

 

[locus8]

This excerpt from From the Earth to the Moon includes an exchange between two ENTJs, as only the type would have it. The scene in question begins at 1:15 and sparks fly at 2:50.

Hey, htb, good example of ENTJ.

 

[htb]

it seems that james rebhorn often plays EXTJ characters (refer to HTB's video)

I didn't know Rebhorn's career was so consistent! Interesting.

Other clips include a few more sides of Rebhorn's character (and perhaps, Rebhorn himself).

Hey, htb, good example of ENTJ.

Thanks! To boot, I've always wanted to make use of that clip; it's one of my favorite cinematic sequences.

 

[Valiant]

In what way are they atrocious (I'm not disagreeing with you)? Would you also disagree with Eminem being any kind of NF? He writes songs about raping women with umbrellas.

Grammatically incorrect, slang, crappy melody, ugly videos, sleazy... Just awful.
And his texts doesn't really say shit, they're just on about his hoes and his bling. >.<
I don't think anyone can type either Eminem or 50 Cent, they are just too damaged and stuck in their unhealthy act to really have a type. Who knows who they once were?

 

[Valuable_Money]

I would counter the question. What makes him an NT?
I just don't see that connection at all.
He's shallow, opportunistic, sleazy... No refined taste.
He does seem street-smart but not intelligent.
He used to be a petty criminal... No education.
Low moral standards... Don't get me wrong.ENTJs can be evil. But not petty, stupid criminals.
Few, if any, walk that muddy road.
He's just not an ENTJ by any standards.

"But he's just a product of his environment!"
No ENTJ would believe that or accept such nonsense.
We create or bend our environment, or replace it.
How many of you ENTJs have practically raised yourselves
with common sense and a sense of where and what you want to become?
I know I have, and most of the ones I know have.
When I think about it, this is what most strong individuals must do,
in order to truly become their own man or woman;
which is what pretty much defines the ENTJ.
The need and struggle to rule, to conquer, to learn and to grow.
At least the healthy ones who can truly claim to be ENTJ.
You can't exactly call that guy 'healthy', by any standards.
Also, most real ENTJs are good with words and writing.
What he does with words is not only ugly, it is atrocious.
If he had any EJ in him, he would truly detest his works.

Im sorry I hate to play up negative stereotypes but ENTJs arent known as shining examples of morality.

Thats just it, he did change his enviorment. He relized "Holy shit if I keep doing this Im going to end up dead" so what does he do? He becomes famous glamorizing the same lifestyle he was trying to get away from.

Grammatically incorrect, slang, crappy melody, ugly videos, sleazy... Just awful.
And his texts doesn't really say shit, they're just on about his hoes and his bling. >.<
I don't think anyone can type either Eminem or 50 Cent, they are just too damaged and stuck in their unhealthy act to really have a type. Who knows who they once were?

So your basicly say ing because hes not a grammer nazi and you dont like his music hes not ENTJ. your not convincing me.

 

[Riva]

i dunno... i identified a lot with his rant.

...well maybe more than a lot...

...maybe...maybe too much

ESTPs and ENTJs have Se.
Se dominant in ESTP ....... you know the rest.
But Se is quite visible in ENTJs. That is why people confuse ENTJs to be ESTPs and vise versa.

 

[violet_crown]

Rollins is no more ENTJ than .50 cent.
The video that was posted is an act. It is not who he is.
He's said so, many times in interviews.

Just because someone rants, or makes money, doesn't make them ENTJ.

ESTP's can not only rant as well as ENTJ's, they could probably outdo them.
It might behoove you to do some research about ESTP-ENTJ looking similar.

I'm still not clear from this what makes you think that he's not ENTJ. The article you've posted is irrelevant until it's shown to have some relationship an argument.

 

[Kangirl]

Just because someone rants, or makes money, doesn't make them ENTJ.

ESTP's can not only rant as well as ENTJ's, they could probably outdo them.
It might behoove you to do some research about ESTP-ENTJ looking similar.

I don't think ranting + $ = ENTJ either, but it doesn't necessarily = ESTJ. In the Rollins vid it was more the contents of the rant that seemed ENTJ to me. I would, I think consider myself a fan of Henry Rollins, so I've seen and heard a lot more of his stuff than this one vid. I'm not making any 100% claims as to his type (no one here should be, because none of us can know), but yeah, no problem with seeing this guy as ENTJ.

So your basicly say ing because hes not a grammer nazi and you dont like his music hes not ENTJ.

Yeah, I'm getting a bit of this from YLJ as well! 50 Cent's life trajectory seems very ENTJ. He's been the architect of his success, and of the persona that has made him famous - it feels very planned and calculated with him. I don't really see what liking his music, or finding it 'atrocious' or 'brilliant' has to do with it. And besides, imo, he isn't bad with words at all. Part of me can't help but admire a person like 50 Cent, completely regardless of whether I like his music - he DID his thing, and he succeeded. Good for him.

 

[violet_crown]

I don't think ranting + $ = ENTJ either, but it doesn't necessarily = ESTJ. In the Rollins vid it was more the contents of the rant that seemed ENTJ to me. I would, I think consider myself a fan of Henry Rollins, so I've seen and heard a lot more of his stuff than this one vid. I'm not making any 100% claims as to his type (no one here should be, because none of us can know), but yeah, no problem with seeing this guy as ENTJ.

That's what I thought as well.