[Jungian Cognitive Functions] Cognitive Functions

[Risen]

Merry Christmas

I'd uh... I'd kiss some serious ass to whoever gets me a Christmas gift like that .

 

[Dooraven]

If INTPs don't fit well with the cognitive processes Jung/MBTI aligns then I can definitely say I'm an INTP. My processes fit no where near the supposed function

 

[thisGuy]

what seems like Te is actually a manifestation of Fe.

i know...i sometimes get confused between my own Te and Fe just because how assertive my speech seems. then i realize that 'Te' is absent when im being nice to people, when im practicing a positive Fe.

also, compare your so called 'Te' with an ExTJ or INTJ's Te...youll realize the difference

 

[Thalassa]

what seems like Te is actually a manifestation of Fe.

i know...i sometimes get confused between my own Te and Fe just because how assertive my speech seems. then i realize that 'Te' is absent when im being nice to people, when im practicing a positive Fe.

also, compare your so called 'Te' with an ExTJ or INTJ's Te...youll realize the difference

my speech is pretty assertive. is that an EP thing?

 

[tinkerbell]

OK, here's an illustration where I aim to show how differentiation and the complexes proceed:

when I saw that, I thought... that has to be an INTP

 

[lunalum]

Why does this all have to be so complicated?
INTP=preference for introverted, intuitive, thinking and perceiving.
I am still not getting all of this cognitive function stuff thrown on top of this once-simple system...

 

[thisGuy]

Why does this all have to be so complicated?
INTP=preference for introverted, intuitive, thinking and perceiving.

not so simple when you account for people's personal values and ethics and STILL want to understand the way they work

I am still not getting all of this cognitive function stuff thrown on top of this once-simple system...

the way a perosn does things has been generalized to 8 seperate ways. these ways are then labeled cognitive functions. these become really obvious once you see real life examples.

like figure out a person's MBTI in real life. then go on the net and look at their top 2-3 supposed cognitive functions. try to spot these functions in that person's mannerisms, speech, writings, deals with the world

 

[thisGuy]

my speech is pretty assertive. is that an EP thing?

now that you mention it, my ENFP buddy is the chillest guy ever but sometimes his suggestions seem very Te in nature...which pisses me off cuz i feel like hes telling me to do stuff

 

[Thalassa]

now that you mention it, my ENFP buddy is the chillest guy ever but sometimes his suggestions seem very Te in nature...which pisses me off cuz i feel like hes telling me to do stuff

Yeah, sometimes people feel like I'm telling them what to do. And sometimes I am.

I think Te is very important to basic survival. These ENFPs who get by on cupcakes and smiles must have incredibly protective, wealthy parents. It also gives my Fi force (scary, I know) if need be. However, I also learned at some point in my late teens to use it as a defense mechanism, and I find that it occasionally separates me from people - which is often the very opposite of what I want.

 

[thisGuy]

Yeah, sometimes people feel like I'm telling them what to do. And sometimes I am.

I think Te is very important to basic survival. These ENFPs who get by on cupcakes and smiles must have incredibly protective, wealthy parents. It also gives my Fi force (scary, I know) if need be. However, I also learned at some point in my late teens to use it as a defense mechanism, and I find that it occasionally separates me from people - which is often the very opposite of what I want.

well put; i can see that everything you said applied to me the ENTP and my buddy the ENFP

and the bolded part is the story of my uber ironic life

 

[lunalum]

the way a perosn does things has been generalized to 8 seperate ways. these ways are then labeled cognitive functions. these become really obvious once you see real life examples.

I understand that much at least. I don't get why the types are identified by these functions in addition to the preference system.

Also,what is with setting the same combination of functions for everyone of one type? Do the people who do not test that way still follow the pattern dictated somehow, or do we get to have whatever last 6 functions we'd like?