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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I am too hungry to read through his whole day, but just wanted to note that, it is quite possible that a symbolic Socionics INTj is actually a symbolic INTP by Myers-Briggs standards.
    That's what I was wondering. Not very mbti INTJ... but possibly INTP?

    I actually did identify with much of this, thinking of when I was around twenty years old (I'm a lot friendlier now... ), except for the extremity... but was he being literal in terms of his imagined violence towards others or simply using dry/tongue-in-cheek hyperbole?

    Inside there was this constant need to judge what was going on around me (sometimes leading to very extreme internal reactions to intrusions or people's stupidity or arrogance). But outwardly what was manifested was, basically, disassociation ... instead of trying to control others or fight them, you just control yourself and remove yourself or avoid interacting as much as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendacity View Post
    I wasn't disturbed by it, although I thought the guy in the story was probably a little immature and also suffered from some mental disorders.
    He said is was "hypothetical" and it's meant to be a joke. I'm sure the guy doesn't really react that way at all. He's just using hyperbole and sarcasm.

    Am I the only one to perceive it this way? It seems the INTJ's in this thread are taking it overly seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    but was he being literal in terms of his imagined violence towards others or simply using dry/tongue-in-cheek hyperbole?
    You beat me to it

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    And even as a non-I, non-J and non-T, I can really relate to Athenian and Mendacity on destesting loudness and bad behaviour in that sort of setting (I really, really hate people on trains, buses, supermarkets and stuff like that too) and having strangers come near and talk to me when I'm obviously engaged in some other activity, such as looking pointedly in the opposite direction. I didn't find it disturbing to read, just annoying to some extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    And even as a non-I, non-J and non-T, I can really relate to Athenian and Mendacity on destesting loudness and bad behaviour in that sort of setting (I really, really hate people on trains, buses, supermarkets and stuff like that too) and having strangers come near and talk to me when I'm obviously engaged in some other activity, such as looking pointedly in the opposite direction. I didn't find it disturbing to read, just annoying to some extent.
    It always amazes me how some people are completely incapable of detecting when chitchat is undesired.

    I used to work with this woman who would see me sitting in the corner with a newspaper, sipping coffee with a look of concentration on my face, yet still come over and start babbling, then looking dejected when I deflected her efforts at initiating conversation. What, between the coffee, the newspaper, and the distant look on my face, could possibly give this person the idea that I wanted to talk?

    She started telling people that she thought I had depression. Man she drove me nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    He said is was "hypothetical" and it's meant to be a joke. I'm sure the guy doesn't really react that way at all. He's just using hyperbole and sarcasm.
    Am I the only one to perceive it this way? It seems the INTJ's in this thread are taking it overly seriously.
    Well I didn't think that he was doing anything more than fantasizing about the violence.
    However,
    "Your mind quickly switches to this pretty blond named Amy, and how enticing it would be to strangle her-- to hear her scream! To watch her short, meek, slender body writhe in pain! You mentally tag her for later thoughts,"
    seems pretty specific for it to be hyperbole and sarcasm. Although there were parts of the piece that seemed to be these things, this passage did not strike me as such. Actually, that passage strikes me as a bit sitting-in-the-bushes-outside-the-head-cheerleader's-room-masturbating-with-one's-own-feces-while-fantasizing-about-torturing-her-because-she-won't-talk-to-you.
    Also, if the writer doesn't react that way, that's fine. But I'm not talking and don't care about the writer. I'm talking about the guy in the story and I think he's immature and probably has some mental disorders. I say immature I guess, because in my experience younger people have a more volatile reaction to life stupidity and bullshit. I used to be pretty misanthropic and violent when I was in my early 20's as well.
    Ok, it's a story about a young guy with mental disorders. That's fine. Those stories are valid and entertaining too. All I'm saying is that I don't act or think that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I used to work with this woman who would see me sitting in the corner with a newspaper, sipping coffee with a look of concentration on my face, yet still come over and start babbling, then looking dejected when I deflected her efforts at initiating conversation. What, between the coffee, the newspaper, and the distant look on my face, could possibly give this person the idea that I wanted to talk?
    Some people can't wrap their brains around the concept that some people don't want to talk. Or share personal details about themselves with strangers. I have a tattoo in Gaelic on my arm. People ask me what it means all the time. That's fine. They're curious. I'm not thrilled about it, but I knew it was going to happen when I got the tattoo.
    What it means is "All that you love will be taken away." To me, this serves as a reminder to appreciate the things I have in life because inevitably they will one day be gone. When I tell people what the tattoo means they look at me like I'm a leper and say, "Wow, that's depressing." I guess if you look at it a certain way it can be. That's not how I look at it though. And who the fuck are you to critique my tattoo anyway? Did I ask your opinion? You don't have to like it, it's my tattoo and I won't make you get one just like it. Would you critique the haircut of a stranger in the same way? No, that would be rude! Just like what you're doing now is rude and if you had more brains than god gave a gnat you might see that!
    So I stopped telling people what it meant. They'd ask and I'd say, "Actually, it's kind of personal" and smile at them in a friendly way. They always get offended by that. The guy at the convenience store or at the Blockbuster gets offended because I don't want to tell him what my tattoo means.
    So I've started telling people it means "Jesus Christ is my lord and savior." One day I'll get someone for whom Jesus Christ is actually their lord and savior and then I'll really be fucked... but it hasn't happened yet. Now they just smile uncomfortably and go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendacity View Post
    Well I didn't think that he was doing anything more than fantasizing about the violence.
    However,
    "Your mind quickly switches to this pretty blond named Amy, and how enticing it would be to strangle her-- to hear her scream! To watch her short, meek, slender body writhe in pain! You mentally tag her for later thoughts,"
    seems pretty specific for it to be hyperbole and sarcasm. Although there were parts of the piece that seemed to be these things, this passage did not strike me as such. Actually, that passage strikes me as a bit sitting-in-the-bushes-outside-the-head-cheerleader's-room-masturbating-with-one's-own-feces-while-fantasizing-about-torturing-her-because-she-won't-talk-to-you.
    Also, if the writer doesn't react that way, that's fine. But I'm not talking and don't care about the writer. I'm talking about the guy in the story and I think he's immature and probably has some mental disorders. I say immature I guess, because in my experience younger people have a more volatile reaction to life stupidity and bullshit. I used to be pretty misanthropic and violent when I was in my early 20's as well.
    Ok, it's a story about a young guy with mental disorders. That's fine. Those stories are valid and entertaining too. All I'm saying is that I don't act or think that way.
    OK, but I interpret it differently.

    You have to put that sentence back into its context:

    "HI! MY NAME IS AMY, AND I AM WITH THE STUDENTS FOR A MORE CHRISTIAN SOCIETY! WE ARE HAVING A COOKOUT TONIGHT, AND WE WILL BE SINGING, DANCING, PLAYING GAMES, AND JUST GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER! IT WILL LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN! EVERYONE IS INVITED, SO I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!" she says, full of excitement. "Thanks!" you say, taking a flyer, although you had quickly decided that there is no way in hell you are going. You wonder if Hell would be much worse. Your mind quickly switches to this pretty blond named Amy, and how enticing it would be to strangle her-- to hear her scream! To watch her short, meek, slender body writhe in pain! You mentally tag her for later thoughts.
    It's basically an anti-Fe rant. It's just a humorous way of expressing that the extraverted behavior is extremely annoying to the INTJ. It's just dark humor/cynicism mixed with hyperbole for a tongue-in-cheek effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    OK, but I interpret it differently.
    You have to put that sentence back into its context:
    It's basically an anti-Fe rant. It's just a humorous way of expressing that the extraverted behavior is extremely annoying to the INTJ. It's just dark humor/cynicism mixed with hyperbole for a tongue-in-cheek effect.
    I don't think the context changes things. I agree that it's an anti-Fe rant in a sense, but I think he crosses a line in there.
    Anyway, it's a piece of (probably) fiction and thus open to interpretation. You may very well be right about the author's intentions. I disagree, but it's all a matter of opinion and interpretation in the end. And that's cool.
    Anyway, the author shouldn't have written it as just fantasizing about hurting the annoying idiot girl. Really he should have opened her head and eaten her brains to gain her powers. That's the only way to truly handle one's enemies. Anything less is just laziness.
    Anyway, I've probably had too much to drink tonight.

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    I can very well relate until the last lines of 4:49pm-- (You throw your hat off, kick the chair...), from there it becomes 'not me'. Let's also forget about the proudly organized notebook, unless talking about organized chaos.

    Didn't find this one bit disturbing, to be honest. It was actually quite entertaining, and in a way fascinating.

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    I read this some time ago and also thought it was hilarious, I could identify with some of it, especially the standing in line for lunch part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    I found this on one of the Socionics forums . I think that it is rather amusing:

    A Hypothetical Day of a Misanthropic INTJ Collegiate

    Despite this referring specifically to an INTJ, I suppose that this could apply to any NT club type in general, though especially the introverts. Interestingly, I have heard some discussion as to whether this guy actually is an INTJ. Some people have said that he actually might be an INTP.
    What are your opinions?
    Personally, I think that "Sonics" site is a comedy site... I think that whoever wrote it was belittled too often at school by INTJ's....

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