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    It would depend on wether or not it was somthing I wanted to do.

    If it was somthing I was really interested in I would love somthing open ended and would hate specific instructions. I remember in the 7th grade we were asked to write a term paper for english. We were prepared for it by reading over a book on how to space the lines ect ect which I imediately disregarded. I then spent my whole time researching my topic (conspiracy theories about the lincoln assassination) which I wrote a 25+(if my memory serves me) essay on. It got a D because I didnt follow "The format" :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangirl View Post
    Thoughts? Is it pathological to have an extreme preference for direct instructions rather than more open-ended thought-assignments?
    Fuck no.

    Enjoying making lists of possibilities runs counter to habits of decision-making. Lists of possibilities are great, but possibilities that aren't going to be acted upon aren't really all that entertaining to an NTJ.

    I have wondered about this sometimes: Ni and the way it functions can and even must act as a limit on Ne, meaning an Ni person hanging around an Ne person is going to have some conflicts. Certainly Ne opens up Ni to more possibilities, but Ni will as its supposed to, eventually snap back inside itself.

    It appears to be one of the less than perfect aspects of N on N duality.

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    If it was somthing I was really interested in I would love somthing open ended and would hate specific instructions.
    Good point and I'm the same way. If I'm *interested* in a topic, I sometimes like the "write a 25 page paper on X, anything you want" instruction. But if it's something I just want to get done and handed in, goddamnit, be specific!

    Lists of possibilities are great, but possibilities that aren't going to be acted upon aren't really all that entertaining to an NTJ.
    I don't know enough to type others reliably but this kid sure sounds INTJ to me. And what my INFP friend is reading as pathology or 'fear' is really just being uncertain of what is wanted/expected of the INTJ kid. I advised the INFP to go easy and work *with* the kid rather than trying to ram a square peg into a round hole but I dunno if my advice will be taken, as INFP is convinced they're the expert. *small rolleye*
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    Let's let the free market decide whose approach is pathological:
    Average Income:
    ENTJ - $84,434
    ESTJ - $76,238
    ESFJ - $74,882
    INTJ - $72,043
    ENFJ - $71,060
    ISTJ - $71,020
    ESTP - $69,323
    ISTP - $67,349
    ENFP - $66,210
    INTP - $64,872
    INFJ - $64,372
    ISFP - $64,166
    ISFJ - $63,870
    ESFP - $63,281
    ENTP - $62,960
    INFP - $61,565

    If society is the round hole, your INFP friend is clearly overcompensating for being the square peg by deciding the INFP way just has to be right.


    (This is 50% joking- but only 50% joking.)

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    Apparently the median income in the US has tripled since...yesterday.

    Interesting.

    (And you thought the Democrats weren't doing anything to fix the economy!)
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    This data is from an MBTI survey, so there's selection bias in who takes it. From the looks of this forum, MBTI seems to attract disproportionately many upper middle class whites with college degrees.

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    Surely this is a J type thing, not pathalogical.

    J's are not the most imaginative, and typically like boundaries of direction - ENTJ's like most NT's like to get it right, NT's have issues of needing to be independant, so asking an overly open question has no correct answer. To many kids this is great - they just go off and do (more so than adults), but ENTJ's like to excell - their self esteme depends on it/getting it right.

    the main thing is different kids respond to different learning styles... thats totally normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post

    J's are not the most imaginative,
    2nd grade teacher said to my Mother:
    "Your child has the wildest imagination I've ever seen."

    I'm ENTJ.
    I spent years using my imagination in advertising.
    I don't know what the big deal is people,
    but anyone can brainstorm ideas, then choose one to run with.

    I've done it my whole life.

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    Hey Jag

    No offense meant, my former boss is a J type, he hs creative but doens't beleive himself to be....

    Many NT's need to get things right and many J types find open spaces without walls difficult to deal with

    I totally agree with the anyone can brainstorm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicheck View Post
    Let's let the free market decide whose approach is pathological:
    Average Income:
    ENTJ - $84,434
    ESTJ - $76,238
    ESFJ - $74,882
    INTJ - $72,043
    ENFJ - $71,060
    ISTJ - $71,020
    ESTP - $69,323
    ISTP - $67,349
    ENFP - $66,210
    INTP - $64,872
    INFJ - $64,372
    ISFP - $64,166
    ISFJ - $63,870
    ESFP - $63,281
    ENTP - $62,960
    INFP - $61,565
    It's been awhile since I've seen these numbers, but isn't all that HOUSEHOLD income?

    Edit: Yes, those are household incomes. That's a pretty important thing to consider.

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