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    Yeah, I agree with Evan and The Decline. Fear of failure or consequences is really the only thing that truly motivates me. I did learn in grad school that the "just do it whether you want to or not" thing does work, just not all the time. Depends on how unpleasant it is.

    Getting the unpleasantness over first doesn't work for me. I get the easy/fun stuff done, and then I feel like I've actually accomplished something. Then there's less stuff to do, making it more likely I can force myself to do the stuff I don't like.
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    I bet a lot of INTPs will plan to comment in this thread but postpone it until they collect their thoughts, and then get distracted, and eventually never get around to doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Yeah, I agree with Evan and The Decline. Fear of failure or consequences is really the only thing that truly motivates me. I did learn in grad school that the "just do it whether you want to or not" thing does work, just not all the time. Depends on how unpleasant it is.

    Getting the unpleasantness over first doesn't work for me. I get the easy/fun stuff done, and then I feel like I've actually accomplished something. Then there's less stuff to do, making it more likely I can force myself to do the stuff I don't like.
    I'm pretty much the same as Tal - motivation is difficult sometimes, but fear of failure can almost always crush it. In school, for instance, I never had the late-night procrastinator problem. I was the guy everybody hates who's always done his studying days in advance - because my fear of failure would just start making me paranoid in advance. Of course, it was nice being able to relax the day before a big test - which probably didn't hurt, tell you the truth .

    For things that just don't matter to me housekeeping, yard maintenance, etc. I usually wind up putting things off until something happens (I spill something on the floor... guests coming over, etc.). It's the first step that's the hardest. Once I get going, I usually do okay.
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    I'm presently procrastinating finding a solution to said problem by posting on TypologyCentral.

    I usually try to procrastinate productively. This method sounds crazy, but it has saved me in school SEVERAL TIMES.

    As for my solution, I found simply taking initiative whenever possible was the best way to stop procrastination. If something needs to be done in 96 hours and should take around 2 hours to do it, why not do it now? Your stress level will go down as there is less work that needs to be done and you be able to procrastinate as work is already done. Planning to do things ahead of when you need to do them is the main tactic involved. Even if you procrastinate, the early planning should make up for it.

    As I'm sure the readers of this post are thinking, this is a job easier said than done. It does require a significant amount of practice.

    This is all said keeping in mind that making sure that you don't get caught in a cycle of drudgery that you will constantly want to procrastinate away.
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    You guys are my peeps! *shakes fist @ procrastination, does nothing about it*

    Nothing works better than unbendable pressure and a need/desire to actually meet the deadline. Short of that, nothing usually happens unless I want it to.

    Lists can work fairly well for short periods but the best thing for me is outsourcing unpleasant and hard to get motivated for jobs. Getting bogged down with tasks I really struggle to make myself do can make everything else seem that much bigger and harder, getting someone else to do the things that I really don't want to do helps to motivate me in those other areas as it's not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    I bet a lot of INTPs will plan to comment in this thread but postpone it until they collect their thoughts, and then get distracted, and eventually never get around to doing it.


    I was probably going down that road until I read your comment...

    How I deal with the issues? I haven't found a method that consistently works yet. Either I need to get really super excited about the task, be threatened with extreme fail, or a combination of the two while making sure that my health and abilities are high enough to actually get somewhere.

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    I have no idea.... clearly fear of failure isn't enough of a motivator. Or maybe the consequences just aren't dire enough yet... yet.
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    For some of my friends (non-INTPs), they can set up a rewards system with themselves. "If I get this much work done, I can watch tv, have a treat, buy something for myself, etc." This doesn't work with me. I already know that I can have that thing. Why would I withhold it from myself? Similarly, setting a clock 15 minutes ahead doesn't make me early for anything. I just mentally subtract 15 minutes and show up late anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Getting the unpleasantness over first doesn't work for me. I get the easy/fun stuff done, and then I feel like I've actually accomplished something. Then there's less stuff to do, making it more likely I can force myself to do the stuff I don't like.
    +1

    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    For things that just don't matter to me housekeeping, yard maintenance, etc. I usually wind up putting things off until something happens (I spill something on the floor... guests coming over, etc.). It's the first step that's the hardest.
    +2 A lot of things have a high activation energy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew_Z View Post
    As for my solution, I found simply taking initiative whenever possible was the best way to stop procrastination. If something needs to be done in 96 hours and should take around 2 hours to do it, why not do it now? Your stress level will go down as there is less work that needs to be done and you be able to procrastinate as work is already done. Planning to do things ahead of when you need to do them is the main tactic involved. Even if you procrastinate, the early planning should make up for it.
    That doesn't work for me. I've tried that in my job, and all that happens is the task expands to fill the available time. Even better, the quality of my writing is crap. So I deliberately do the opposite. I deliberately leave things to the last minute and then write whatever I need to write. The quality of my writing is much much better and I don't waste so much time faffing about.

    During a typical day at work, I tend to try to steer my procrastination by shifting to stuff that needs to be done and flipping between various tasks to stay interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    For some of my friends (non-INTPs), they can set up a rewards system with themselves. "If I get this much work done, I can watch tv, have a treat, buy something for myself, etc." This doesn't work with me. I already know that I can have that thing. Why would I withhold it from myself? Similarly, setting a clock 15 minutes ahead doesn't make me early for anything. I just mentally subtract 15 minutes and show up late anyway.
    +3 Also, setting artificial deadlines doesn't work either, cos I know they're artificial.

    And I recently wrote this at INTPc:

    I did well at school and college. Apart from doing the required assignments, I invariably did best if I studied at the last minute. I did try doing the study as I go along technique in first year college and dutifully read the textbook as we went along. Which was fine, till we got to the first exam and I tried to study for it. I couldn't remember the details well enough, but the textbook was too familiar to be able to read it again without getting bored. So I just did last minute study and it was MUCH better.

    I did pay attention in lectures, though, and thought about what we were taught. But the formal sit down every night and study thing just didn't work for me.

    My maths courses were all open book exams, ie you could take in all your notes and the textbook. More than once, I ended up teaching myself how to do particular integrals or differential equations while actually in the exam. I read and think quickly, which kinda saved my ass in those exams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Similarly, setting a clock 15 minutes ahead doesn't make me early for anything. I just mentally subtract 15 minutes and show up late anyway.
    Aha! I have a remedy for that. When I set my alarm/clock, I'll get it close to the actual time, close my eyes and press on the button so it will skip a random number of minutes ahead. I'll look away and go distract myself.

    As for how I deal with procrastination, I'll bitch and moan about it to everyone's nearby until the point where I have to get shit done...and then I'll get shit done.
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