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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Actually that is not true.

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    You seem to be the only person in this forum who doesn't even know the basics.
    Don't waste my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    No one gets pissed off when people say SJs are helpful, SPs are spontaneous, or NF are dreamers. But say NTs are intelligent, and you're in a world of trouble. Fact of the matter is each of these is a description of the type. These are Types not constants. There will always be variation, but there is a pattern within the type that was apparent enough to be put into the general description.
    Yeah, there is such an obvious correlation between NTs and intelligence, it seems silly that people want to disregard it or call it a wash.

    Maybe the NFs feel left out... You guys are smart too, intelligence relates more to N/S than it does T/F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    If you wish to see stupidity, one only needs to read the original post in this thread.
    Actually, that is not true.


    Please reread again. Without bias. Naturally if understanding is a waste of your time, the stance you have taken in this thread seems justified.

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    I don't think people are asking for political correctness, they're asking for plain old correctness.

    Saying that NTs can't be stupid, isn't morally or politically wrong, it's just false.

    As is saying SJs can't be unhelpful, SPs can't be planned, or NFs can't be realistic, all just as false according to the theory.

    The theory itself makes no assertions in regards to ability, so there are no real assertions you can draw from the theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Saying that NTs can't be stupid, isn't morally or politically wrong, it's just false.
    But I don't think anyone is saying it's 100% black or white, we're just noting the clear correlations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    But I don't think anyone is saying it's 100% black or white, we're just noting the clear correlations.
    when people say there are stupid NTs, I just don't understand how that is possible.
    Was the whole basis of the thread wasn't it? Which seems black and white. Otherwise if it's just stating there is a correlation, it's very much stating the obvious, a pointless thread.

    It was the definitive point that NTs couldn't be stupid that made the thread interesting and contentious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Was the whole basis of the thread wasn't it? Which seems black and white. Otherwise if it's just stating there is a correlation, it's very much stating the obvious, a pointless thread.

    It was the definitive point that NTs couldn't be stupid that made the thread interesting and contentious.
    Well there are a few N/S questions on the MBTI test that do totally depend on intelligence.

    It could be said that virtually no stupid people "easily understand new theoretical principals", so if a stupid person answers that way on the test, they are almost certainly mistyping themselves.

    But other N/S and T/F questions aren't directly related to intelligence, so it's conceivable than a stupid NT could get away with a low NT score and not be mistyped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I don't think people are asking for political correctness, they're asking for plain old correctness.

    Saying that NTs can't be stupid, isn't morally or politically wrong, it's just false.

    As is saying SJs can't be unhelpful, SPs can't be planned, or NFs can't be realistic, all just as false according to the theory.

    The theory itself makes no assertions in regards to ability, so there are no real assertions you can draw from the theory.
    Could have said this myself. Bravo.

    Pointless thread is pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Well there are a few N/S questions on the MBTI test that do totally depend on intelligence.

    It could be said that virtually no stupid people "easily understand new theoretical principals", so if a stupid person answers that way on the test, they are almost certainly mistyping themselves.

    But other N/S and T/F questions aren't directly related to intelligence, so it's conceivable than a stupid NT could get away with a low NT score and not be mistyped.
    That just highlights the subjectivity of the term (stupid) as most sensors will tell you that that theory without application is stupid. A sensor could easily point to the sensotard thread as a sign of stupidity, but we are more forgiving than that.

    stu·pid (stpd, sty-)
    adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est
    1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
    2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
    3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
    4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
    5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.
    1. Note it doesn't define what isn't being learnt or understood. If an intuitive cannot understand or learn the importance of details, or learn how to interact with the environment physically then they're stupid by definition.
    2. See sensotard thread (oops not so forgiving afterall )
    3. Sensors and intuitives tend to care about different things so they might both look careless to each other
    4. Intuitives can be like this when overloaded with sensory detail
    5. The worth of something is subjective, Sensors and Intuitives place value on different things, so they will see each other as "pointless".

    Also there is a reason that the test isn't depended on it's own and usually what is considered to be someone's "true" type is found through self-analysis. So a stupid NT may not test as NT but could very much fit the "whole" type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Please reread again. Without bias.

    The fact that an ENTJ like myself questions your post, clearly shows I am unbiased.
    A biased NT would agree with any bullshit that flew out of your mouth.
    Frankly, I think your OP comments are irrational.

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