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[NT] NTPs... do people think you are high?

NTP's, do people often think you are high?


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thisGuy

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i would think Ns in general would face this 'problem

INXXs would be thought of as on weed where randomest shit comes out

ENXXs would appear as if very drunk and hyper
 

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:rofl1: here I thought I was the only one!

I was sent to the counselor in 7th grade, and my lock was cut off several times that year because I was suspected of doing drugs. They called my parents and everything, so I had to go through the parent interrogation thing too. I was high on Ne though, which leaves no trace. :D

I'm sure my high school teachers probably suspected it too.
Teachers and counsellors in that level tend to be ESFJs.. the trusted people in charge. Then when you move up the school ladder, the teachers you encounter tend to be ESTJs.
You say they suspected it, too .. I am sure they did, but they did not act.

The ESFJs act.. that is because they are emotional, they FEEL indignation and resentment.
It may be overpowering. The ESTJs do not take it so much to their heart. They do not take it so personally. Not if you are a school kid.

In the end, the ESTJ is more dangerous. God forbid if you are his/her daughter, or son, and you are a true INP. All hell breaks loose. If no drugs is found, then it is only worse.
You may end up in a mental hospital. In the 60s the average cure was lobotomy.

That is because of the mental build up of the ESJs. They have to find out the reason for the offspring's oddness. If it is not drugs, then it has to be madness.

The basic problem on the ground level is the ESJs absurd faith in authority figures. The specialists are in the know. What a doctor says is true.

Today it is not much better. The social sector is involved, and the police.
There is a lot of ESJs around in both places. The social workers take the kid away from home, and the police place her in a juvenile prison, on account of a suspected drug abuse. It does not need to be proven. The prison is a lot better than a mental institution, though.
 

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I just bump into a lot of things, and I tend to sit on people's laps in the subway by accident.

what? people are so easily perturbed... I mean their world is so small that they actually think that a simple thing like that is a sign someone's on drugs??

geez, I'd just say it was a sign of someone who's distracted or preoccupied, could be by any number of things, but most likely, their own thoughts.
 

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Last three weeks I've been working my ass off and people have repeatedly asked me if I was using amphetamine. The thing *I* myself felt like I had used it, too (even though I hadn't, of course)... Go figure. Maybe I was just too J for myself? :p
 

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I'm not an NTP, but I've had people tease me about being spaced out a lot and drugs are often brought into the mix. I've never touched the stuff and nobody has ever asked me seriously, but I wouldn't be surprised if a few strangers here and there who don't know me better might wonder given how much I tend to day-dream or get lost in my own thoughts whenever given the chance. I think normally I'm just considered a head-in-the-clouds oddball though, but a friendly one that people don't need to be worried about. Perhaps NFs get away with it easier than NTs? At any rate I imagine it must be incredibly annoying for people to really, truly think you're high when you're not. It would certainly annoy me personally anyway.
 

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Last three weeks I've been working my ass off and people have repeatedly asked me if I was using amphetamine. The thing *I* myself felt like I had used it, too (even though I hadn't, of course)... Go figure. Maybe I was just too J for myself? :p


what did that feel like...did it give you a happy feeling?
 

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what did that feel like...did it give you a happy feeling?

Heh, from my experiences (nine years ago, mind you), amphetamine doesn't give me a happy feeling, it just makes me very intense, sharp, extremely concentrated, awake, and... fast... Also somewhat detached from everything, especially feelings, be it mine or others (Fe goes LOW). There is a certain feeling in the body, too, but it's hard to explain. Something like a constant little vibration. Oh, and you can't get to sleep.

And that's exactly how I feel every time I'm working really hard, e.g. last three weeks. No, I didn't sleep more than 3 hrs a night last three weeks.

It's like I'm storming around, working and talking really intense and like in FFW mode, bossing everyone in sight, and I have no time nor am I willing to think about anything else, esp such mundane things like how to "cushion" my then-sharp words to those crybabies F-s. I'm like: "Get to work, dammit, and stop whining!!! We can deal with those issues later when we have finished the IMPORTANT stuff!"

I can be a real bitch ENTJ if deadlines are close. Like brother, like sister... *sigh* (But the difference is, I really do deal with those issues later, take them out and get everyone to speak and relax, making sure they know they are appreciated and their work recognized well. I may not be good at it, but at least I'm trying, OK?)

So - no point in using drugs (drugs are baaad, believe me, and I'm talking from first-hand experience!), you can just work your ass off. Much healthier, too. Might be just as addictive, though.

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OK, I'm always a bitch, but I'm WAY bitchier when deadlines are close.
 

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Yes. People my age have accused me on multiple occasions of being high on the following drugs:

Marijuana
Crack
Methamphetamine
Heroin
 

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Heh, from my experiences (nine years ago, mind you), amphetamine doesn't give me a happy feeling, it just makes me very intense, sharp, extremely concentrated, awake, and... fast... Also somewhat detached from everything, especially feelings, be it mine or others (Fe goes LOW). There is a certain feeling in the body, too, but it's hard to explain. Something like a constant little vibration. Oh, and you can't get to sleep.

And that's exactly how I feel every time I'm working really hard, e.g. last three weeks. No, I didn't sleep more than 3 hrs a night last three weeks.

It's like I'm storming around, working and talking really intense and like in FFW mode, bossing everyone in sight, and I have no time nor am I willing to think about anything else, esp such mundane things like how to "cushion" my then-sharp words to those crybabies F-s. I'm like: "Get to work, dammit, and stop whining!!! We can deal with those issues later when we have finished the IMPORTANT stuff!"

I can be a real bitch ENTJ if deadlines are close. Like brother, like sister... *sigh* (But the difference is, I really do deal with those issues later, take them out and get everyone to speak and relax, making sure they know they are appreciated and their work recognized well. I may not be good at it, but at least I'm trying, OK?)

So - no point in using drugs (drugs are baaad, believe me, and I'm talking from first-hand experience!), you can just work your ass off. Much healthier, too. Might be just as addictive, though.

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OK, I'm always a bitch, but I'm WAY bitchier when deadlines are close.


well my question was directed in that did being so J and getting everything done ont time leave yuo with a good feeling? or was it apathy? or was it 'maaaan...only if i had mnore time, i could have dont so much better'

but i didnt make that clear to begin with...my bad
 

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:rofl1: here I thought I was the only one!

I was sent to the counselor in 7th grade, and my lock was cut off several times that year because I was suspected of doing drugs. They called my parents and everything, so I had to go through the parent interrogation thing too. I was high on Ne though, which leaves no trace. :D

I'm sure my high school teachers probably suspected it too.

Wow I was going to say:

Yeah but only when I was using lots of Ne. :yes:

Too true.
 

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well my question was directed in that did being so J and getting everything done ont time leave yuo with a good feeling? or was it apathy? or was it 'maaaan...only if i had mnore time, i could have dont so much better'

but i didnt make that clear to begin with...my bad
yea, ok, i got you wrong.

i always do best when working like a maniac, so i didn't think 'if i only had more time' - besides, the deadline was moved closer, so the situation was not because of me procrastinating (this time :p).

i didn't feel anything particular about actually doing that stuff in absolutely impossibly short time. i mean - the achievement itself didn't do much for me. but, boy, did it feel good to relax and do nothing afterwards :).

so i did feel good, but not because i was "on J", but when i had the "J hangover" :p
 

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Many times. These're usually people that only know me in passing, or don't know me at all though. The term "Whot are yeu on, and where can I get some?" is generally in referance to how people think of me it seems >.>

Truth be told though, I prize my mind too much to do so. I'm CURIOUS admittedly about whot it'd be like to hallucinate... I've never hallucinated, never passed out, or anything of the sort, which leaves me wondering about it. However, the risks are too high... I've had several alcoholics in my family, and know I'd be no better. If I started, I'd never stop, and would quite literally fry my poor brain. As such, I don't drink, do drugs of any kind, I don't even drink anything carbonated (poor resistance, stings like hell if I drink pop or anything else >.< ) and won't even use most medication unless absolutely required, to the point that I virtually never use advil and am not taking the prescribed medications I'm supposed to for being diabetic... though that's moreso because the doctor who prescribed them was an idiot and it was literally impossible to eat enough to maintain sugar levels with those things on, it already is a pain to control even without, but with the medication it couldn't be done >.<

But anyways... yeah, I'm likely to ACT kind of... odd at times... but it all makes some sort of bizzarely twisted sense in the end. I am rather spontaneous, but it's generally derived from many places interacting togeather, like someone says something, I may twist it to an alliterary phraze in my head, which reminds me of a quote, which I then subsequently bastardize by adding godzilla, because honestly, whot isn't better with godzilla? By the time I actually state my reply, it's so warped it doesn't sound like it has anything at all to do with the original question.

I've heard this both described by one friend as "dragon logic", and occasionally "catgirl logic", being nonsensical in a structured, if chaotic way, and I have also heard it termed as "shiney thought" by someone once, because their definition was that it was like stopping every 5 seconds and going "OOH SHINEY!" by latching onto the next immediate thing... so like if yeu're trying to go through the idea of a 'train of thought', it's just on a set of tracks which has branching sidetracks every few feet, and yeu're addicted to going down whichever path yeu're not currently on, and just can't say NO to diverting. To the point yeu wander all over the place aimlessly, and can change topics multiple times in the same sentance without even realizing it, yet it does make a bizzarely twisted kind of sense to yeu at least, but that's only because yeu can see all the decisions leading up to the eventual result.

Anyone else who's witnessing yeur thought process, without seeing the inner mechanics, and only sees the start and end points, is just going to go WTH o_O;;

As such, yes it does seem like either insanity or drugs at times, but it's actually perfectly natural for those of us who make connections between nearly unrelated topics so easily... it just changes so quickly and in such rapid order that it's hard for normal people to keep up, even moreso when yeu omit telling them of half the things that yeu thought of along the way.
 

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While I'm sort of on the NTX border several people have commented that I look high. Probably has to do with staring off into space when I was thinking about something or something.
 

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My mum asked me last nite if I was drunk. And i wasn't atall unfortunatly.
 

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Never had people thinking I was high based on my face or posture, even if I was. On the other hand, if I tell a French guy I'm Dutch he usually asks me if I'm high.
 

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Back in my school days, a teacher once asked me "are you wasted?" when I was completely sober. I just said "this is how I always look". :yim_rolling_on_the_ To be fair, I do like sporting the disheveled hobo look. :jew:
 
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