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    Default What do you hate about non-rationals?

    This isn't about argueing points, I've learned in life thats useless.
    I would just like to hear what other people hate about non-rationals, but specific examples as opposed to general themes.

    I hate the way my Christian friend argues, he quotes direct verses from the bible, and uses metaphors that have flaws, but when I directly quote the bible to raise a different point, or to back up my arguement its "taking it out of context" and bringing up a point is "twisting his words".
    I hate how he uses circular logic,
    "I know God Exists"
    "How"
    "Because He Exists"

    I hate how people ignore the facts, and how they WANT to be deluded, they WANT to delude themselves. They believe fallacies, but when given evidence that it may be wrong they ignore it, and dont look it up themselves.

    Such fallacies include things such as "There are only three forms of matter" to "America was founded as a Christain country"
    Not to mention I've heard people rationalize invading Iraq because "We've killed Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein (this was like 4 years ago, before we DID kill him) so we ARE winning and should keep going" to "Its okay to hate pakistan because they bombed us."

    WHAT?!?

    Not to mention people that think gays shouldn't get married because of
    1.) Tradition (Whos tradition? Christians?)
    2.) Because the definition of marriage is "A man and a woman" (Again, whos definition?)
    3.) Its unnatural (Even though homosexuality happens alot in nature and and i don't hear them bitching about going to the bathroom in a toilet, which is VERY unnatural)
    and whatever else, completelly ignoring the fact that athiests can get married, that people who are NOT going to have children can get married and that there ARE other religions where homosexuality are ok.
    It isn't right to make others follow the rules of YOUR religion.
    And they don't even comprehend what point I try to make.

    Blah.
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    "You!"

    "Yes, I have a turn both for observation and for deduction. The theories which I have expressed there, and which appear to you to be so chimerical are really extremely practical -- so practical that I depend upon them for my bread and cheese."

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    The biggest problem with non-rationals is the additional difficulty in accepting arguments which are based on evidence and logic, instead of "common sense" or feelings.

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    Not to mention logical fallacies. such as "well statistically 2 billion people can't be wrong."
    Yes they can be.

    They say "I just KNOW"
    I point out so don't schizophrenics.

    They say things that are witty, like somehow witticism equals a win.


    Like, this will be a very poorly remembered quote, heard from someone who messed it up when they told it to me.

    "The likelyhood of man writting the bible, something so perfect and has predicted so many things, is (input some ridiculous thing about finding something in the desert)"
    I point out people think Sylvia Brown can talk to ghosts, she can't, look it up if you think she can.
    People thought that George Bush was the incarnation of Jesus.

    And Mormons think that they have magic underwear that protects them from the outside world...maybe if its kevlar.
    "You would lose your money," Sherlock Holmes remarked calmly. "As for the article I wrote it myself."

    "You!"

    "Yes, I have a turn both for observation and for deduction. The theories which I have expressed there, and which appear to you to be so chimerical are really extremely practical -- so practical that I depend upon them for my bread and cheese."

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    Yeah, hypocrisy has got to be the main thing. If it serves to prove their points it's fine and dandy. If it serve to disprove them it's not.

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    I hate the way they have to be chopped up to fit into cans properly. Sawing bones is a real pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01011010 View Post
    I hate the way they have to be chopped up to fit into cans properly. Sawing bones is a real pain in the ass.
    Precisly lol. See my first reaction was to laugh, then I realized this is actually why people kill eachother over stupid beliefs lol
    Talking to my pentacostal friends ALWAYS makes me want to punch him.
    "You would lose your money," Sherlock Holmes remarked calmly. "As for the article I wrote it myself."

    "You!"

    "Yes, I have a turn both for observation and for deduction. The theories which I have expressed there, and which appear to you to be so chimerical are really extremely practical -- so practical that I depend upon them for my bread and cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01011010 View Post
    I hate the way they have to be chopped up to fit into cans properly. Sawing bones is a real pain in the ass.
    TJs.... always putting people into neat little boxes!:steam:

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    I don't hate, hatred is born in frustration. I'm perfectly happy with who I am to and for myself.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    I don't hate, hatred is born in frustration. I'm perfectly happy with who I am to and for myself.
    I agree, my hatred for ignorant people is born out of being frustrated that they cannot see.
    But I don't get mad at my dog for being a dog, does that mean I shouldn't get mad at stupid people? Or am I now some d-bag for thinking they are less than me and not responsible for what they do...because they are dumb.

    Lol I'm not sure.
    "You would lose your money," Sherlock Holmes remarked calmly. "As for the article I wrote it myself."

    "You!"

    "Yes, I have a turn both for observation and for deduction. The theories which I have expressed there, and which appear to you to be so chimerical are really extremely practical -- so practical that I depend upon them for my bread and cheese."

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