[MBTI General] ESFJ/INTP

[Kra]

I'd imagine it's a lot like the abrasions caused by an INTJ/ESFP relationship. Just swap a couple of the points of contention.

 

[The Decline]

I think my dad is an ISFJ. All I'll say is that the mere thought of him being an extrovert makes me queasy. I can come to understand and appreciate how he sees things as it is, but if he was overbearing and such like an extrovert, I'd certainly consider suicide.

 

[think2much]

sounds like a mess to me.

it is! :steam:

 

[groovejet02]

My mom is an ESFJ and our relationship is strained. While I appreciate that she's highly responsible, I can't stand her domineering ways. She interprets my INTP independence as a slight against her. I know a few ESFJ women and the thing I notice about them is that they can be your no. 1 supporter, but only if you act according to their values. They're great fun and good hostesses, but too suffocating to live with.

 

[Aleksei]

sounds like a mess to me.

My grandma was ESFJ and my grandpa is probably INTP (definite IxTx, INTP fits best). It didn't seem to me that their marriage was too rocky.

 

[Timeless]

Socionics wise

ESFj + INTj (INTP or INTJ in MBTI)

Equals duality.

 

[Aleksei]

Bleh, socionics.

 

[TiNe_2_IP]

sounds like a mess to me.

On the scale of ground zero.

I/ESFJ Husband. Suicide did crop up as a solution at one time but that would be messier. I beat that down - I'm bigger than that, supposed to be smarter than that!
My mission in life - to find a workable solution. It can be done, it must be done, it will be done, even if I die trying.
If I find one I'll leave instructions in my will for it to be posted on the forums.

 

[digesthisickness]

*reads thread*

never thought i'd say this, but, "thanks for being an ESTJ, mom."

 

[goodgrief]

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

ESFJ: Remember we have to go to the fair at noon, visit my family at four, go out to dinner with my friends at seven, and then drop off the movies at the redbox and come home and clean.

INTP: Or we could visit your family first and then head to the fair since it's closer to Olive Gar...

ESFJ: No, we're going to the fair at noon, visiting my family at four, etc.

*INTP suicides.*

ESFJ: Why do you have to be so weird?

No, it's more like this.

ESFJ: Remember we have to go to the fair at noon, visit my family at four, go out to dinner with my friends at seven, and then drop off the movies at the redbox and come home and clean.

INTP: Can't we just go out to dinner and forget about the rest?

ESFJ: But it's my family. They're very important.

INTP: *suicides*

 

[Saslou]

No .. It is more like this.

ESFJ: Remember we have to go to the fair at noon, visit my family at four, go out to dinner with my friends at seven, and then drop off the movies at the redbox and come home and clean.

INTP: Can't we just go out to dinner and forget about the rest?

ESFJ: How about i go to the fair and have fun whilst you drop off the movies .. Then we meet up for dinner, come home and if we both clean then it'll be done in half the time and i'll see the family during the week. I'll make my excuses to my friends.

INTP: When do we have sex?

ESFJ: *Ripping off clothes before the sentence is completed*

Now that wasn't so hard was it. Things do not have to be over complicated Compromise and communication is the key

 

[digesthisickness]

No .. It is more like this.

ESFJ: Remember we have to go to the fair at noon, visit my family at four, go out to dinner with my friends at seven, and then drop off the movies at the redbox and come home and clean.

INTP: Can't we just go out to dinner and forget about the rest?

ESFJ: How about i go to the fair and have fun whilst you drop off the movies .. Then we meet up for dinner, come home and if we both clean then it'll be done in half the time and i'll see the family during the week. I'll make my excuses to my friends.

INTP: When do we have sex?

ESFJ: *Ripping off clothes before the sentence is completed*

Now that wasn't so hard was it. Things do not have to be over complicated Compromise and communication is the key

not saying this conversation has never taken place, but i am saying that it sounds extremely idealized.

...

also, i honestly can not wrap my mind around how anyone could stand it if this is how their SO is all the time.

 

[Saslou]

not saying this conversation has never taken place, but i am saying that it sounds extremely idealized.

...

also, i honestly can not wrap my mind around how anyone could stand it if this is how their SO is all the time.

You're correct .. I don't want everything my way all the time, but i am willing to compromise.

Lol .. This is why i don't have many relationships under my belt .. It's draining.

 

[quamdel]

I have a female ESFJ co-worker. She is complex, so she passes for awesome. We are so different its only slightly funny.

I secretly want to train her shadow side so she can be a sociable genius lol. Right now she's a people person genius (and in school to be an "administrator"). She can boss me around whenever haha

 

[Tallulah]

I don't want anyone living in my house that suggests we go out to dinner on the weekend then come home and clean the house (in half the time!). It would be like dating my mother.

 

[jixmixfix]

On the scale of ground zero.

I/ESFJ Husband. Suicide did crop up as a solution at one time but that would be messier. I beat that down - I'm bigger than that, supposed to be smarter than that!
My mission in life - to find a workable solution. It can be done, it must be done, it will be done, even if I die trying.
If I find one I'll leave instructions in my will for it to be posted on the forums.

that was intense.

 

[jixmixfix]

If all those INTP's committed suicide there would no more INTPs left in this world.

 

[pplskillz]

I think ESFJ's are either misunderstood or the ones who get out there are just naturally nuts! Some of the things I read are like OMG THAT ME IN HIGH SCHOOL, but I grew up. I started to appreciate those who were so good to me and I'm obsessed with being the best I can be for them. Manipulative maybe but harmless. Emotionally needy, maybe but in control. HOwever what the one person said about carefree mode is very true, when I'm stressed upset or need to get something done, don't get in my way I wil eat you. Sorry :s But whne I'm happy get ready for some wild memories!

 

[pure_mercury]

I like hanging out with INTPs's who have decent social skills. I don't know that I've ever met a female INTP, so I have NO idea what dating one would be like, but I would consider it. I need a good amount of verbal and physical affection, though, so we shall see. I am extremely E and J, too.

 

[Edgar]

I think as long as they don't expect the other person to change to be more like them, they can be highly complementary and appreciative of the other's strengths.

yes, people who have nothing in common usually get along just fine.