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    I get very frustrated when people fail to understand what I'm saying, as my thoughts are pretty much the only thing I'm attached to. Once understanding is reached, though, all is well. So long as everyone is communicating, I'm dandy.

    The ramification of weak Fi, the best I can tell, is that I'm just not motivated by my feelings in any significant way. I've little concept of how I might personally be affected by things, and I have trouble seeing why it should matter. Often I can't tell if I like or dislike a thing. So long as it doesn't interrupt my train of thought, and doesn't generate any particularly interesting new thoughts, I tend to be profoundly impartial. I have trouble recognizing what mood I'm in, and rarely think of taking it into account. Because, you know, why? That's just me.

    My last partner seemed to assume if I expressed a preference, it was an absolute decree: I will accept this, and only this. Generally, though, uh, no. If red is important to you, by all means go with the red. I'm just saying a contrast would be more interesting. Why are you angry?

    If something is important, I'll explain it in detail, so you understand the rationale behind it. If I don't do that, chances are I don't really care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aderack View Post
    I get very frustrated when people fail to understand what I'm saying, as my thoughts are pretty much the only thing I'm attached to. Once understanding is reached, though, all is well. So long as everyone is communicating, I'm dandy.

    The ramification of weak Fi, the best I can tell, is that I'm just not motivated by my feelings in any significant way. I've little concept of how I might personally be affected by things, and I have trouble seeing why it should matter. Often I can't tell if I like or dislike a thing. So long as it doesn't interrupt my train of thought, and doesn't generate any particularly interesting new thoughts, I tend to be profoundly impartial. I have trouble recognizing what mood I'm in, and rarely think of taking it into account. Because, you know, why? That's just me.

    My last partner seemed to assume if I expressed a preference, it was an absolute decree: I will accept this, and only this. Generally, though, uh, no. If red is important to you, by all means go with the red. I'm just saying a contrast would be more interesting. Why are you angry?

    If something is important, I'll explain it in detail, so you understand the rationale behind it. If I don't do that, chances are I don't really care.
    +1. I could have written this whole post. Most times, I am indifferent. Frustration at miscommunication or misunderstanding is probably the emotion that I feel the most. The other emotion is excitement. I get really happy and excited, really quickly. I love to laugh and one funny phrase can alter whatever frustrating situation I find myself in. But I'm not an INTP, so I guess it's not relevant.

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    No, I'm not sensitive.

    It would take an unexpected, personalized attack from someone I trust to compel damage - and it would doubly require that the assault transpire from an unjustifiable position.

    I generally prefer honesty, especially as it applies to interpersonal exchange. I dislike having to prune through opaque, politically-correct terminology to arrive at an accurate rendition of someone's stance. Said process is often time-consuming and risks potential for miscommunication (an ideal contrary to the initial 'convoluted-yet-kind' framework) which makes it difficult to find common ground.

    This shouldn't imply that I find any less disagreeable rude behavior; proper etiquette is essential for valuable exchange. I simply internalize less from untoward individuals than the average person might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    The other emotion is excitement.
    I'm going to flip that on its back, rub its belly, and call it fascination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aderack View Post
    I'm going to flip that on its back, rub its belly, and call it fascination.
    yes, yes, yes. I'm going to have you be my new spokesperson. I'm fascinated, excitedly so.

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    Hmmm, really? I was referring mostly to how other people can mistake silence or a poker face for no "internal" reaction. Especially INXP who are not as readily expressive you might not know that they are bothered (or touched) by something or the extent until they explicitly tell you later and it can catch you by surprise.

    But for the "bubbling under the surface" I think this may be different for ENTPs and INTPs. I have definitely seen INTPs do and say things that catch others by surpise whether it's catch feelings for someone or blow up in anger. I don't have as much RL experience with ENTPs to compare and contrast. I think an extravert though would be more likely to naturally show their cards, so to speak.
    “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” ― Oscar Wilde

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    Well, you should know better than me.


    EDIT: I can see how that would be interpreted as rude, so I want to clarify. You should know better than me, since they are your friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aderack
    I'm going to flip that on its back, rub its belly...
    yes, yes, yes.

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    Well, I mean. Everyone has emotions. The question is what you do with them: how much you acknowledge them, and then how much you factor them into your decisions. Of course, there are side effects to brushing your emotions aside. Unless you empty that garbage pail, it's going to overflow. Here's a bit of a recent conversation with a friend, also INTP:

    > I have trouble dealing with situations like that, because I kind of try to be agreeable, but that only works up to a point. And then i suddenly snap. It probably doesn't make sense to the other party. You know, "He seemed okay with what I was doing before!"

    * Yeah, I know. The sponge can only soak up so much. There was this moment in high school -- I was in a friend's room, in a kind of bad mood. I was slumped against his bed. Someone sneaked up in the hallway, and shot me in the face with a water pistol. I didn't react. I wiped my face, and kept lying there. He snuck up and did it again. Again I didn't react. He did it a third time, and I flipped out. Before I knew what I was doing, I was up and screaming and raging and kicking things with all my force. I don't know who did it. I guess he said "holy shit" and hid somewhere. But I didn't calm down for like ten minutes.

    > What the fuck? Who does that three times? Or even twice?

    * That guy.

    > Once, i can understand. Yeah, it's retarded, but whatever. But to come BACK and do it AGAIN?

    * I don't know.

    > That is some fucking pathology right there.

    * I know. I guess somewhere in my head, I just excused once. All right, someone's being an idiot. What else is new. Then a second time, fuck, what's wrong with that person? Oh well. But three times, it's like -- what the shit.

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