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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_ View Post
    - [thinking] everyone is stupid, normal people(sensors) have no value at all, they are robots, a lesser species because they actually do stuff in the real world instead of observing life as it passes them by
    I thought this thread was supposed to be about unhealthy INTPs?

    I have to say that dexedrine/adderall helps wonders with the extreme clutter and mess. IOW, now my apartment is just "normal" messy

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-J View Post
    I have to say that dexedrine/adderall helps wonders with the extreme clutter and mess. IOW, now my apartment is just "normal" messy
    every time i mention things like this to my doctor, they don't take me seriously, and it gets ignored, and one can't just ask for a prescription. it looks/sounds too fishy, and they decline.

    what magical wording are you people using that i'm apparently not?
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    Do any of you other INTPs during a 'low' go out and search the net to see if you had some mental health condition? I spent the longest time trying to convince myself I was schizophrenic. In hindsight I feel pretty dumb about it.
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    every time i mention things like this to my doctor, they don't take me seriously, and it gets ignored, and one can't just ask for a prescription. it looks/sounds too fishy, and they decline.

    what magical wording are you people using that i'm apparently not?
    Go to a good specialist (forget general practitioners). Neuropsychological tests should tell whether you have ADHD or not.
    Not having finished university in 10+ years and having a lifetime of experience of never starting tasks early enough to hit the deadline and never doing homework also help in getting the diagnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willfrey View Post
    Do any of you other INTPs during a 'low' go out and search the net to see if you had some mental health condition? I spent the longest time trying to convince myself I was schizophrenic. In hindsight I feel pretty dumb about it.
    I was pretty convinced I had Schizoid PD or whatever for about 3 days a couple weeks back.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A-J View Post
    Go to a good specialist (forget general practitioners). Neuropsychological tests should tell whether you have ADHD or not.
    Not having finished university in 10+ years and having a lifetime of experience of never starting tasks early enough to hit the deadline and never doing homework also help in getting the diagnosis.
    thanks. i'll take your advice and see what happens. after all, what do i have to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I was pretty convinced I had Schizoid PD or whatever for about 3 days a couple weeks back.
    Haha, me too. The criterion for SPD just sounds like an INTP/J with a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grungemouse View Post
    Haha, me too. The criterion for SPD just sounds like an INTP/J with a headache.
    Haha! Yes, it's a bit too close for comfort. But so what if I have it? I'd just get prescribed something I wouldn't take anyways so what's the difference.



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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    thanks. i'll take your advice and see what happens. after all, what do i have to lose.
    Well, a bunch of money, but aside from that . It's worth it though. Money is cheap compared to your mental health.
    Probably best thing I ever did was to get off my ass and finally go to the doc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJT View Post
    Solitary, great post but I think one needs to define clearly what INTP 2 is alienated from. I consider myself to be a fairly healthy person but I can without a doubt, identify with the alienated INTP 2 you have defined. There is quite a bit of junk out there that I feel many intelligent people are rightly self-sequestered from. Especially the INTP.
    The INTP2 that you seem to have in mind is merely a person with a good head on his shoulders who is uninterested in non-sense. Namely, Monday night football, Brittney Spears, Celebrity gossip and so on. This is not the behavior of the INTP2.

    INTP 2 is an unhealthy kind of a person because he has a prejudice that most things that are not relevant to his interests can never serve him well. Hence, he shuts the world off.

    The fundamental difference between the kind of a person that you have in mind and INTP 2 is that the latter assumes that most of the activities in the external world are ipso facto useless, the former does not. The former merely arrives at a sober realization that most activities are not worth his while.

    One sentence summary: The unhealthy is characterized by a deep seated prejudice that most external world activities are not desirable, not by a mere prudent judgment that most things are not desirable.

    Clarification: The former is willing to continue evaluating the circumstances of the external world to the end of seeing if he finds activities that he may benefit from. If he does, he would be willing to participate in them. The latter has given up on the world, and is content having almost no part in it. Despite the apparent clarity of thought and emotional stability of the INTP 2, this way of functioning inflicts severe consequences upon the mental health of the person in question. Unlike INTP 1 who may be falling apart, the INTP 2 suffers in a more implicit way. Such as for example, subtle ascerbity or a general low energy state of being.
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