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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
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    I think you are very tiring to discuss with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    People just don't know what to do with those who exhibit large quantities of Ni *and* Ti.

    Did Jung ever classify himself as an Introverted Thinker? (I don't recall.)
    No, he classified himself as dom Ni/secondary Te (aka INTJ)--interestingly, one of the types that that he himself had termed "irrational."

    Types leading with Judging functions (IxxP and ExxJ) are "rational" and those leading with Perceiving ones (IxxJ and ExxP) are "irrational."

    I suppose my Ti should be offended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewellyn View Post
    I think you are very tiring to discuss with.
    I agree

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    Heh, I find it interesting how the discussion of what type Jung is has regressed into arguing what type does what.

    I hardly know where to begin, but I'll start with Jung's problems dealing with reality and how it relates to me as an INTP.

    More often than I would like to admit, I'll be doing an everyday activity and the novelty of discovering that I am, in fact, alive, or that what I'm experiencing is reality is staggers me. I often feel like such a disembodied head that it shocks me to realize what it is to be human (looking down and discovering I have arms just like everyone else.)

    To me, it seems like Jung is an INT* no matter what. I believe he is an INTP over an INTJ because I've never really got the vibe that he was working solely due to an internal drive to produce or be efficient (which I find present in INTJ's.) To me, he seems more like a P, taking an idea and playing with it and refining it for a short while and then moving on to another idea before playing with it and refining it again.

    It seems to me that the ideas he gathers are more P-based and Ti-Ne-filtered rather than Ni-based and Te-filtered.

    I also think I've seen him listed as an INTP on lists of famous INTPs.
    Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Te = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ne = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fi = 15 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Si = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ni = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Se = 11[][][][][][][][][][][]
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    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    It seems to me that the ideas he gathers are more P-based and Ti-Ne-filtered rather than Ni-based and Te-filtered.
    Ni-based = P-based
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    Heh, I find it interesting how the discussion of what type Jung is has regressed into arguing what type does what.

    I hardly know where to begin, but I'll start with Jung's problems dealing with reality and how it relates to me as an INTP.

    More often than I would like to admit, I'll be doing an everyday activity and the novelty of discovering that I am, in fact, alive, or that what I'm experiencing is reality is staggers me. I often feel like such a disembodied head that it shocks me to realize what it is to be human (looking down and discovering I have arms just like everyone else.)

    To me, it seems like Jung is an INT* no matter what. I believe he is an INTP over an INTJ because I've never really got the vibe that he was working solely due to an internal drive to produce or be efficient (which I find present in INTJ's.) To me, he seems more like a P, taking an idea and playing with it and refining it for a short while and then moving on to another idea before playing with it and refining it again.

    It seems to me that the ideas he gathers are more P-based and Ti-Ne-filtered rather than Ni-based and Te-filtered.

    I also think I've seen him listed as an INTP on lists of famous INTPs.
    I can follow your reasoning here but I have a feeling you'd abandon it if you did some more research on cognitive functions.

    Most of Jung's writing is pure Ni.

    (btw, lists of "famous people of this type!" are almost always bullshit because no one knows wtf he's talking about.)
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    For arguments sake, let's say Jung was an ISTJ.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    ^ Someone is stirring the pot. Or smoking some.

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    Don't forget smoking some pot while stirring this here delicious pot of stir fry

    EDIT: [Ti inner monologue: "Shut the hell up, Ne! NTJs won't think that shit is funny!"]

    EDIT EDIT:

    btw Jag, nice Jung quotes in your signature there. The first one, especially, seems pretty adamantly not Ti, and the second one is about as Ni as it gets.

    I'm hearing NTJ everywhere.
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    ^
    Re: the Jung quotes, if you look closely you'll see MBTI actually conflicts with Jung's comments.


    EDIT: I did think your stir-fry comment was funny.
    You pot-head!

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