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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    We are talking about INTPs, not INTJs.
    Yes. That's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Yes. That's right.
    I recommend that you do further inquiry into typology. Your behavior on this site did not resemble what one typically can expect from an INTJ. Don't know what type you actually are, as I am not able to extrapolate what your unconscious tendencies may be like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    I recommend that you do further inquiry into typology. Your behavior on this site did not resemble what one typically can expect from an INTJ. Don't know what type you actually are, as I am not able to extrapolate what your unconscious tendencies may be like.
    Strangely, I agree with BlueWing. Maybe the "mom" skews it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Yes, the INTPs I refered to are 3 in particular that I know their type for sure.
    But my "small sample" automatically makes me wrong.
    I suppose, I am really asking what made you feel manipulated (small sample size or not). Feel free to use fake names to protect identity etc.

    That way I (and others) can gain some insight into whether I (or others) do similar things or not, and can perhaps devise strategies to avoid it (if I consider it worthwhile).

    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I would never have bet a Hershey bar on it.
    I can't remember other INFPs off the top,
    but the one I know the best is my sister.
    Again, what made you decide they were the ones labeled INFP were being dishonest w/ themselves and others. I think we can learn from that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    The INTPs I know are manipulative sociopaths.
    The ones I have met here since yesterday are rude.
    I noticed that at least a couple of the INTPs who you interpreted as rude were being facetious, but you took their jokes quite literally, which surprised me, since INTJs don't typically respond in that fashion.

    I hope you realize that my earlier post in this thread is a joke. I used an emoticon that should help in that regard. (I really don't believe that the world would be a better place if everyone were an INTP.)

    I'll admit that the INTP sense of humor tends toward the morbid and obscure (some may say, "lame") but many INTJs seem to relish that sort of humor. INTPs who try to joke with you are expecting the typical INTJ appreciative response--and perhaps some of the same warped humor in return.

    I don't believe that people were trying to offend you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    The INTPs I know are manipulative sociopaths.
    and the INFPs deny truth and live in a world of lies and denial.
    Eh. I see these things as situational personality type adaptations. IOW, given a difficult social situation, then:

    INTPs will obfuscate their way around it,
    INTJs will charge it head on and bowl it over,
    and INFPs will use a little feel-good sleight-of-hand to tiptoe past it.

    Each personality type is quite sure that their method of handling the situation causes the least fuss and harm, and each type is a little shocked at how the other types handle the situation. Watching each other deal with the situation, the INFPs accuse INTJs of being bullies, and the INTJs accuse the INFPs of being liars. In turn, INTPs may well come off as manipulators to both the INTJ and INFP.

    Or, alternatively, all three personality types can adjust their filters and accept that there's more than one way to skin a cat.

    All personality types have their typical shortcuts or nickel-and-dime rip-offs in response to difficult situations, especially when viewed through the filter of another personality type. But assuming that we're talking about average representatives of each type, then these shortcuts or petty rip-offs typically don't rise to the level of criminality or sociopathic deceit.

    IOW, if you have an employee of another personality type, then you understand that they have their own way of dealing with certain situations. You adjust your filter in a way that allows you to see their basic honesty and not get too riled that they do things differently from you, and you go ahead and entrust them with the till (until such time as their shortcuts or rip-offs rise to the level of universally-acknowledged untrustworthiness or criminality).

    This philosophy may sound too feel-good or wishy-washy for everyone. But I was a sergeant in the Marines for a lot of years. As a sergeant in charge of troops, I couldn't just fire or transfer the troops when they pulled a petty rip-off or didn't do things my way. And their rip-offs usually didn't rise to the level of chargeable crimes. Nor could I run around beating up on them for being bullies and manipulators and liars when I didn't like their methods--after all, I needed them to get the work done around the place. You work with what you've got.

    So I learned to adjust my filter to account for the troops and I accepted that there's more than one way to skin a cat. I kept order and maintained discipline by identifying and curbing the worst excesses, and otherwise I gave the troops some leeway and let them use their own initiative as much as possible. After all, I couldn't do all the work all by myself. Ultimately, we all got along just fine and got the job done. Again, you work with what you've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    I recommend that you do further inquiry into typology. Your behavior on this site did not resemble what one typically can expect from an INTJ. Don't know what type you actually are, as I am not able to extrapolate what your unconscious tendencies may be like.
    Based on the posts that I've read from her so far she is INTJ. She is a mature one at that, rather than one who tries to stereotypically conform to her type like many people do on online forums. In other words she has behaved like a three-dimensional person so far and that is what is throwing you off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Based on the posts that I've read from her so far she is INTJ. She is a mature one at that, rather than one who tries to stereotypically conform to her type like many people do on online forums. In other words she has behaved like a three-dimensional person so far and that is what is throwing you off.
    On what grounds do you maintain that she is an INTJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    On what grounds do you maintain that she is an INTJ?
    It mostly comes from the posts that she's made in her intro thread. I've talked to her about her family and she gave responses that I would expect from an INTJ. Also she hits enter after every sentence. Unconventional behavior like that is what you would expect from a dominant intuitor. (Unless she was trained to do that in some context that I am not aware of.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    It mostly comes from the posts that she's made in her intro thread. I've talked to her about her family and she gave responses that I would expect from an INTJ. Also she hits enter after every sentence. Unconventional behavior like that is what you would expect from a dominant intuitor. (Unless she was trained to do that in some context that I am not aware of.)
    That's a bit vague. We'd need to see more of her. That is why I said I cant type her because I dont have enough information to clearly recognize the patterns of her unconscious tendencies.
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