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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Kind of the same thing isn't it?

    If you accept something, you wouldn't be so frustrated with it.
    I accept that I am not a good golfer. It doesn't mean that I don't get frustrated every time I'm at the driving range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Kind of the same thing isn't it?

    If you accept something, you wouldn't be so frustrated with it.
    The sane man knows that 2 and 2 makes 4, and is happy with that.

    The delusional thinks 2 and 2 makes 5, and is happy with that.

    The neurotic knows that 2 and 2 makes 4, but he HATES it! :steam:



    But then, temporary frustration at an immediate situation isn't the same thing as underlying, longterm frustration at a circumstance that's either unalterable, or difficult to alter without making sacrifices you're not willing to make. The latter I'd say edges towards neuroticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    The sane man knows that 2 and 2 makes 4, and is happy with that.

    The delusional thinks 2 and 2 makes 5, and is happy with that.

    The neurotic knows that 2 and 2 makes 4, but he HATES it! :steam:



    But then, temporary frustration at an immediate situation isn't the same thing as underlying, longterm frustration at a circumstance that's either unalterable, or difficult to alter without making sacrifices you're not willing to make. The latter I'd say edges towards neuroticism.
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    Easy. It isnt ability....it not doing what is required.

    It usually requires taking big risks and the vast majority of people are satisfied with comfortable. Even if THEY are, they have to overcome the pressures of spouses friends family etc to "be responsible" and not take such huge foolish risks. Many friends, peers etc dont really want to see you become rich, bec. it will screw with all the excuses they have for themselves as to why they arent rich....so they will subconsciously deter you.

    It almost always requires a shitload of work and personal sacrifice, and most people don't want it bad enough to give that much.

    Some of my favorite quotes on this:

    Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds.
    - Albert Einstein
    Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambition. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great. - Mark Twain
    Faith that it can be done is essential to any great achievement.
    -Thomas N. Carruther
    It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.
    - THEODORE ROOSEVELT
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
    - Steve Jobs. Apple Computer

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    One other thing. Many people who truly are determined to get rich, and who can deal with the above, end up doing what society, conventional wisdom etc. says they are supposed to do to make it happen, without considering their own strengths and passions.

    It's too much work to do it out of discipline. You have to be doing something you love.

    ...and it has to be something that you are naturally gifted in.


    Too many people try too hard to fit their square ass in a round seat. I only found great success after I gave up taking the path that everyone else thought was appropriate, and did what I loved and knew I was good at. I then had to realize my weaknesses and hire people that filled them. As an INTP, without my operations manager and finance guy, nothing much would ever likely get done, and I probably wouldn't ever know if I was making money or not...because I dislike and therefore suck at that stuff.

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    That's right. You should do the work that you enjoy the most and have the most talent for. You can outsource everything or almost everything else, especially now with the internet. When you do what you're the best at, you can run rings around most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSDesigner View Post
    That's right. You should do the work that you enjoy the most and have the most talent for. You can outsource everything or almost everything else, especially now with the internet. When you do what you're the best at, you can run rings around most people.
    What happens when there is no demand for what you're best at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weminuche View Post
    Easy. It isnt ability....it not doing what is required.

    It usually requires taking big risks and the vast majority of people are satisfied with comfortable. Even if THEY are, they have to overcome the pressures of spouses friends family etc to "be responsible" and not take such huge foolish risks. Many friends, peers etc dont really want to see you become rich completely actualized, bec. it will screw with all the excuses they have for themselves as to why they arent rich are still screwed up....so they will subconsciously deter you.

    It almost always requires a shitload of work and personal sacrifice, and most people don't want it bad enough to give that much.
    Fixed

    St Bonaventura said the same thing about becoming a saint, 800 years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    What happens when there is no demand for what you're best at?
    Just be creative and find a way to financially exploit what you're best at.
    Just assume that there is a way, then find it.
    Don't judge demand based on what you see in the classified job ads.

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    Find yourself an ESTP to work for it with. Seriously, they're absolutely AMAZING at keeping going past all the odds. If you thought ENTJ's were driven, you haven't worked with an ESTP with a plan he believes in!

    The businesses I set up (got going, then handed over cos I was bored by that stage) wouldn't have got anywhere if it hadn't been for the ESTP, ENTJ and me team working to see round, bulldoze, improvize and generally pwn
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