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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    So then in a nutshell what do you want?
    I'm exploring whether logical mindset, reasonability, calmness, productivity and the like is associated with being unmemorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post

    To be quite honest, I find most people that are too even-keeled and "reasonable," to be extremely boring. Day after day, you know they will always be the same, say the same things, do the same things...:zzz:

    Yes, and most often this seems to correlate with Te dom/aux and/or Si.
    My ISTJ is extremely dependable and predictable, but he's certainly not boring. He has very deep knowledge on some extremely obscure subjects, which he pulls on to make very witty and incisive comments and jokes all the time. Couple this with his being somewhat oblivious to others' emotional needs and moods in rooms/crowds, and often misjudging things on that level, and you get someone who's rarely forgotten once met!

    I've been nicknamed Marmite Man in the past, after a British sandwich filler that's advertised as "you either love it or hate it!" - meaning there's no such thing as an indifferent reaction to me yet I'm also known for being Mr Level Head, Mr Calm in a Crisis.

    In short, no I don't think you have to be a super outrageous stereotypical ESxP in order to be memorable or noticed, and I don't think that qualities of level headedness or whatever necessarily bar you from being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    I'm exploring whether logical mindset, reasonability, calmness, productivity and the like is associated with being unmemorable.
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    That's inspiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    My ISTJ is extremely dependable and predictable, but he's certainly not boring. He has very deep knowledge on some extremely obscure subjects, which he pulls on to make very witty and incisive comments and jokes all the time. Couple this with his being somewhat oblivious to others' emotional needs and moods in rooms/crowds, and often misjudging things on that level, and you get someone who's rarely forgotten once met!
    Being witty and incisive is certainly not boring, I agree.

    Btw, cool blue flame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmy View Post
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    LOL, if you think Albert Einstein and Benjamin Franklin were "calm, reasonable, and productive." It's not so much being "logical" that's less memorable, but focusing on the mundane and consciously trying to prevent anything that may cause waves, whether they be physical or psychological, from occurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    My life story.

    Being memorable would help me out in many situations, mostly in work.

    I think my shortcomings to being memorable are
    -my independence
    -being logical
    -being reasonable
    -being factual, responsible, etc
    -managing and solving troubles, rather than making troubles
    -generally being too cerebral, most of the people miss most of my stuff
    -I don't find the most people memorable at all, even if they are enjoyable.
    -I strive for being correct and helpful, as opposed to being weird shit
    -When I do act like a weird shit for some performance, I'm taken very well, and congratulated upon - but I'm bit embarassed, and feel a slight problem for the deviation of my inner life and my outer appearance.
    -I think the ultimate goal of the man is to fight their material conditions, i.e. providing food, comfort, people not dieing etc. I'm at odds with the world coming a big youtube, idols competition etc. (Boring!! ?)

    NTs, or others identify with this? J? Others? Who?

    I'm thinking my shortcomings lie in the my lack of marketable insanities. For example, I'm not the fan of one sports team.

    Sanity is dull.

    I don't get what's supposed to be wrong with this list. Why are these shortcomings??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I don't get what's supposed to be wrong with this list. Why are these shortcomings??
    That kind of normality isn't memorable, which is a hinderance in many kinds of networks.

    Or, at least in attention economy.

    Well. Mostly in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    Being witty and incisive is certainly not boring, I agree.

    Btw, cool blue flame.


    LOL, if you think Albert Einstein and Benjamin Franklin were "calm, reasonable, and productive." It's not so much being "logical" that's less memorable, but focusing on the mundane and consciously trying to prevent anything that may cause waves, whether they be physical or psychological, from occurring.
    Well yeah, obviously if you never try you'll never succeed. If you don't cause a frikkin' tsunami you won't get noticed in the maelstrom of history. But on the other hand I'm saying that you don't need to have a specific outgoing, weird, outrageous personality or type to become memorable. It's all up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    That kind of normality isn't memorable, which is a hinderance in many kinds of networks.

    Or, at least in attention economy.

    Well. Mostly in that.
    Well, those are the things that I remember about a person.
    I think your problem is that you are seeking out the attention of an audience that doesn't suit you. Or maybe you are suffering from low self esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I think your problem is that you are seeking out the attention of an audience that doesn't suit you. Or maybe you are suffering from low self esteem.
    I wrote some silly introspective stuff that I then deleted.

    No, I really need a vacation. I don't think of my own life as interesting enough without a holiday.

    So, I must have one

    Apart from that, I'm interested of this as a larger social phenomenon, perhaps something that only pertains to certain kinds of social groups.
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