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    Quote Originally Posted by meanlittlechimp View Post
    The one thing I have yet to see in myself or other ENTPs (that I've met in real life) is the social machiavellinism. I've heard that in other places and I know you're not saying all ENTPs etc, but that one always baffled me. I just don't see it as typical if at all.
    I haven't seen it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanlittlechimp View Post
    The one thing I have yet to see in myself or other ENTPs (that I've met in real life) is the social machiavellinism. I've heard that in other places and I know you're not saying all ENTPs etc, but that one always baffled me. I just don't see it as typical if at all.

    Can you give me some examples you've seen in yourself or others?
    What's the difference between Social Machiavellinism and Machiavellinism?

    If it means dismantling the "old guard" in order to establish the new, I can see that.


    My own rant:
    I don't think they do it on purpose. But, like the Music Man, they really believe in the projects they con people into. I suppose it is better than intentionally conning people.

    EDIT: in the interest of improvement, a little contingency planning can turn a "con" into a true venture.
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    I've seen it in the unhealthy ENTP i mentioned earlier. He was King of that.
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    I love dropping 'hints' when talking to ENTP just so I can watch them go on a tangent xD

    I love them, they really entertain me w/ their crazy ideas.

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    Faults of one particularly irksome ENTP I've known:

    1.) He read fairly widely, which I can respect, but didn't seem to have any interest in knowledge for reasons outside of showing it off in conversation and otherwise using it for blab-fodder.
    2.) For all of his talk of mind-expansion, blah blah blah (He was quite the Leary and Wilson fan), he seemed to think everyone in the world fell into two categories: Ne-dominant and broken Ne-dominant.
    3.) I know I'm not covering new ground here, but he was hands down the biggest slob I've ever met. I am not being hyperbolic when I say that I would have rather gone to the bathroom at an interstate truck stop than in his john.
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    well i wouln't say that I suffer from machiavellianism myself. i am somewhat image concious etc. but i can tell you far worse horror storries of xNTJs trying to remote-control people. funny thing here is, it almost always fails. even if it looks good for 2-3-4 years there ultimately some destructive element to it :/

    Actually I'll do a real rant- ENTP's can make you feel like you're the only person in the world and then they'll have nothing to do with you for a while and then you'll be their whole world again. One may feel like they are going back and forth between a relational dessert and then a relational lush tropical jungle. You have to be able to be an emotionally equipped camel in relationships with them.
    people with a coke habit to this too
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    ps. mbtic needs a smiley with a coke habit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    And remember: Just because a type has a potential problem area, it doesn't mean that you, the actual person necessarily suffers from this problem, even if you are that type.
    Good point.

    - Unrealistic ideas that are given at an inappropriate time
    - Tendency to not follow on through projects
    - Tendency to get quickly bored
    - Big risk taker
    - Manipulative in social relationships for personal gain
    - Big spender
    - Unfocused and tendency to have difficulty to concentrate on one thing at a time
    - Plays devil's advocate and argumentative for the sake of being so
    - Does not respect existing lines of command to implement own ideas and bypasses social aspects, disregarding negative consequences from those in power
    - Gets bored quickly with romantic partner
    - Narcissistic. Sees the world as an audience
    - One ups people and competitive on task and relational level
    - Obnoxious and rude
    - Ignores social conventions for attention
    - Act in eccentric ways to differentiate themselves from others
    - Goes through long "high" and "low" mood phases
    - Jack of all trades, master of none

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladypinkington View Post
    One may feel like they are going back and forth between a relational dessert and then a relational lush tropical jungle. You have to be able to be an emotionally equipped camel in relationships with them.
    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    It also helps if you like sex.
    Now whenever I encounter an ENTP, I'll envision them attempting to having sex while eating dessert astride a camel--in a tropical jungle, no less. Thanks, guys!

    Note:
    Having run out of emoticons of tropical dessert fruit astride camels, I've had to substitute the following:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I didn't say that I didn't say it. I said that I didn't say that I said it. I want to make that very clear.

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