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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I react to true danger in a covert way whenever possible. The best revenge is when the target is left wondering where it came from and you can enjoy it from afar. They know, but they don't know. You know?

    Overt challenges are too hard to control and control is critical above all. Too hard to control your degree of anger, too hard to control the outcome.
    very true, and very well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Monster View Post
    So why not just tell him to go fuck off? Why destroy him covertly? (I mean he may have of course deserved it so no judgement, more a question of operational tactics)
    Doing it overtly leaves room for justification on the other party's end (I'm obviously in the right, because that guy reacted like such a prick). On the other hand, a covert revenge leads to the other party blaming themselves, realizing what an asshole they are, and consequently leaving no moral superiority on their part.

    It's the whole "one-up" thing, which I think is a bit of a misnomer. It's more a sense of "none shall be superior"; with that said, there can be many equals. However, if someone tries to establish dominance or superiority, it's peg knocking time.

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    Am I evil if my first gut response to jeno's post was admiration and respect and a sense of fucking hell ya, you showed his stupid ass and played a good game?

    I quickly followed with some Fi guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I react to true danger in a covert way whenever possible. The best revenge is when the target is left wondering where it came from and you can enjoy it from afar. They know, but they don't know. You know?

    Overt challenges are too hard to control and control is critical above all. Too hard to control your degree of anger, too hard to control the outcome.
    but whats the point of 'revenge' when the target doesn't know where it came from or for what reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Monster View Post
    So why not just tell him to go fuck off? Why destroy him covertly? (I mean he may have of course deserved it so no judgement, more a question of operational tactics)
    Well, for me, Fe(w/ Ne+Ti) is all about 'poetic justice'...the pound for pound, blood for blood. And, if it gets to that point where I am actually roused from my sleep of uncaring, to make the effort to care: it's on. Meaning, I have tried warning nicely, which went unheeded more than once. So...time to finish it.

    And I love seeing those people destroy themselves (with my unknowing aid, and it's less hands-on, as I can still justify that they 'chose' all step by step moments, themselves, knowing none the better). Hence, covert. I just make sure the situations and reactions (direction of convo) are in such a way as to sway towards a most 'likely' choice they'd make from their end, which, I already know is going to go *splat*.

    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    but whats the point of 'revenge' when the target doesn't know where it came from or for what reason
    Less about revenge and more about balancing out the world (willful karma?), and the satisfaction, therein. If I know I'm damn good, and prove it to myself accordingly, that's a pretty good motivation, in and of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    but whats the point of 'revenge' when the target doesn't know where it came from or for what reason
    That's the beauty. When the target has nothing to blame for their recent demise and disastrous circumstances, the "not knowing" is more psychologically demoralizing because it allows for internal fears to crop up as the mind searches for answers. Feeling like the Universe is against you is far more demoralizing than [insert name here] is against you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    That's the beauty. When the target has nothing to blame for their recent demise and disastrous circumstances, the "not knowing" is more psychologically demoralizing because it allows for internal fears to crop up as the mind searches for answers. Feeling like the Universe is against you is far more demoralizing than [insert name here] is against you.
    And then the beautiful moment comes - when that person realizes how utterly depraved they themselves are, and finally can be dealt with on an equal level. It's not the insult that's the issue (we really don't get that worked up over comments, "sticks and stones" is fairly true), but the supercilious attitude that usually buttresses these comments.

    At that point, once the person's like "oh crap, maybe I'm not that much better than anyone else", then it's easy to say "you're right, but you recognize it now. you're forgiven for being a haughty jerk before. i'm sorry for saying whatever it was that offended you."

    Collegiality, isn't it beautiful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    but whats the point of 'revenge' when the target doesn't know where it came from or for what reason
    They know, but they can't prove it.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    hahahahaha!

    Us ENTPs really can very cruel. And I can't help but admire how good they (possibly we) are at it!
    "I'd never die for my beliefs, I might be wrong"

    "Is it not enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairys at the bottom of it too"

    "Intelligence is being able to hold too opposing views in the mind at the one time without going crazy" - Now all I need to figure out is if I'm intelligent or crazy!

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    Cruelness is nothing you should admire, it will help you shit when it comes to the point you need guns !
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