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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    I've never understand anger that would cause you to throw chairs or smash things. When I get really angry I stop myself from damaging things since I know that I a) have to replace it, b) clean it up. Am I the only one with such practical considerations in the heat of the moment?
    No, I do not throw chairs either. Like you said, too much mess afterwards.

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    1. She grew up in a horrible family situation and is full of seething anger.
    2. She wants a career but also had two kids and children disrupt the order of life / make her feel out of control of her life.
    3. Her interpersonal skills are terrible.

    Her INTP husband looks like an ENFP compared to her. I think the big thing is the anger issues that never got resolved; she is like a barrel of rocket fuel around an open flame, going from unlit to explosion in the space of a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Throw chair, not destroy life: Everyone knows and hears about it. loose canon. Everyone now thinks it's over. Move on with plan B; destroy life. No one is the wiser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    Fixed.
    Heh, if only it worked that way. When things go wrong, everyone remembers what triggered the event. By staying calm, the original condition is suspect. Likewise, people won't know when they have triggered it, making them cautious about pushing any farther.

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    That must be teh difference. INTJ = most people are stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    That must be teh difference. INTJ = most people are stupid
    Heh, they normally are. But just as it's the one that isn't stupid that is dangerous, so becomes every single person you underestimate!

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    I thought that "mature" INTJ's secretly plot revenge rather than openly attacking someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I thought that "mature" INTJ's secretly plot revenge rather than openly attacking someone.
    There's a difference between just being straight pissed off at irrational people and have a seething anger because of betrayal or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    I've never understand anger that would cause you to throw chairs or smash things. When I get really angry I stop myself from damaging things since I know that I a) have to replace it, b) clean it up. Am I the only one with such practical considerations in the heat of the moment?
    I've heard that when types go into this mode (catastrophe mode/really angry/etc) that they temporarily change into their opposite type since the brain has decided that whatever it was doing wasn't working. Thus...INTJ=ESFP, whereas you would become ISTJ.
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    Metamorphosis; that seems reasonable. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more reasonable that explanation seems, also when witnessing other types and their anger management.

    I'm not sure if it explains how I can also get to a point where I'm physically violent with other people and get into fullblown fights (it's been years since the last time, but still). Any thoughts on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Metamorphosis; that seems reasonable. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more reasonable that explanation seems, also when witnessing other types and their anger management.

    I'm not sure if it explains how I can also get to a point where I'm physically violent with other people and get into fullblown fights (it's been years since the last time, but still). Any thoughts on that?
    I assume you are a male, so I will answer from that standpoint. I think that it is perfectly possible for us to get really angry and not switch types as long as we still feel like we have some measure of control. I think that the real problem comes when we realize that we are not only mad, but losing control of what is happening around us. (This would be when I would lash out, or you would mentally retreat to brood.)

    I've seen ISTJs explode in a scary way, and I've seen ExFPs get mad and become totally quiet in a corner. It's like they are trying to suffocate everyone in the room with the raw angry emotion. It's weird how you can feel it.

    Not to mention, ENFP males are naturally aggressive (so I've heard). One of my best friends is one, and he managed to threaten a bank manager and pull a tire iron on a guy in just one week. So, it makes since that you could have potentially been very angry, without quite reaching your breaking point.

    I know I haven't in years.
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