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    although im not a sociopath ive been suspected of being one. mostly by SJs. it makes me feel just that little more isolated, thanks guys.

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    No problem. SFJ's should stick to types of beans rather than yelling out who they beleive is the .

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    I think some people can't see the world through your eyes and they're the type that thinks if you display emotions differently or not as "loud" you must be a sociopath, because I've been accused of being one.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    The word "sociopath" is nothing more than a word to describe people who take to acting without emotion or empathy in the extreme, and it is a word with a strong emotional/judgmental baggage attached to it by Feeler types who would demonize such diametrically opposed behavior. There is nothing wrong with a sociopath save for when that sociopath goes to the extreme of harming/killing others.
    Yes there is. Sociopaths damage the understanding of trust that is required for a society to effectively function. Their greatest potential damage isn't in anything that they directly contributed to, but rather the engenderment of a culture of mistrust. As soon as pro-social people take on completely self-serving behavior because they can't trust anyone within their organization, the organization is doomed to long-term failure, and the members within often experience negative consequences.

    To anyone who's claiming to be a sociopath - no, you're not. One of the hallmarks of Antisocial Personality Disorder is a complete obliviousness of one's own personality - a lifetime of lying to oneself convinces the person that he is the normal one, and everyone else is either lying about actually caring about people, or fools. True sociopaths would never claim to be so, as the cognitive pathways that are required for introspection are permanently never developed, along with those required for emotional affect.

    That being said, I understand where you're coming from - sometimes, I think I'm completely devoid of emotions as well. However, that's more a function of my being NT dominant than anything - all I have to do is start thinking about my relationships with people, and I'll realize very quickly that I do have emotional affect. NT dominance is a radically different way of engaging the world than what most people are used to, and it's easy and understandable to feel different because of it. It's no easier that it takes concerted effort to reconcile our particular F tertiary/inferior and engage on the same level as most people, either.

    Personally, I think that ASPD falls outside the sixteen types. Superficially, it may resemble ENTJ the most, as both appreciate making others do what the individual wants. The key difference there is that an ENTJ derives his or her satisfaction by the plan being followed through, while the sociopath derives satisfaction from making the other person jump.

    That being said, it's impossible to type someone when there simply is no cognitive pathway for anything resembling an F to form.

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    Everyone (about 14/15 years old) tells me I'm a sociopath or at least sick because I talk about intellectual things. AND I'm such a left-wing extremist, lololol.

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    Sounds like you guys talk to people who jump to conclusions too quickly. Just say, "Are you a psychologist? No? Then shut the fuck up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Yes there is. Sociopaths damage the understanding of trust that is required for a society to effectively function. Their greatest potential damage isn't in anything that they directly contributed to, but rather the engenderment of a culture of mistrust. As soon as pro-social people take on completely self-serving behavior because they can't trust anyone within their organization, the organization is doomed to long-term failure, and the members within often experience negative consequences.

    To anyone who's claiming to be a sociopath - no, you're not. One of the hallmarks of Antisocial Personality Disorder is a complete obliviousness of one's own personality - a lifetime of lying to oneself convinces the person that he is the normal one, and everyone else is either lying about actually caring about people, or fools. True sociopaths would never claim to be so, as the cognitive pathways that are required for introspection are permanently never developed, along with those required for emotional affect.

    That being said, I understand where you're coming from - sometimes, I think I'm completely devoid of emotions as well. However, that's more a function of my being NT dominant than anything - all I have to do is start thinking about my relationships with people, and I'll realize very quickly that I do have emotional affect. NT dominance is a radically different way of engaging the world than what most people are used to, and it's easy and understandable to feel different because of it. It's no easier that it takes concerted effort to reconcile our particular F tertiary/inferior and engage on the same level as most people, either.

    Personally, I think that ASPD falls outside the sixteen types. Superficially, it may resemble ENTJ the most, as both appreciate making others do what the individual wants. The key difference there is that an ENTJ derives his or her satisfaction by the plan being followed through, while the sociopath derives satisfaction from making the other person jump.

    That being said, it's impossible to type someone when there simply is no cognitive pathway for anything resembling an F to form.
    Sociopathic behavior isn't conducive to the well being of the group, but by your standards/criteria, this is a nation of sociopaths and narcissists. I would actually argue in favor of that conclusion... It's certainly more difficult NOT to lean towards the narcissistic/sociopathic end these days because the culture is so hell bent on supporting that sort of behavior.

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    I don't get it.

    People are objects.

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    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    The term "sociopath" is thrown around far too liberally, these days. Most people don't even realize that the word pertains to a personality disorder that should be diagnosed. As for the population of sociopaths in the Western world, most of them are already institutionalized or will be shortly.

    That being said, I work in retail and I was conversing with a customer recently. This customer had initiated conversation with me before and I'd always found him very boring, mainly because he just wants to chat. At any rate, after he had bored me with his chatting, he felt that it was time to say goodbye. Right before he left, he said, "Don't kill anyone." I found this somewhat funny, so I let out a chuckle. He looked at me as I did so, and I could tell that he was serious. This royally pissed me off. Honestly, how fucking rude is that? Yeah, I know I don't have the most cheerful demeanor sometimes, even without considering where I work. But to assume that I would just up and kill someone is foolish and quite insensitive, especially for a chatty sap like him. Next time that jerk wishes to involve me in his prate, he'll meet nothing but my cold shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senphi View Post
    The term "sociopath" is thrown around far too liberally, these days. Most people don't even realize that the word pertains to a personality disorder that should be diagnosed. As for the population of sociopaths in the Western world, most of them are already institutionalized or will be shortly.

    That being said, I work in retail and I was conversing with a customer recently. This customer had initiated conversation with me before and I'd always found him very boring, mainly because he just wants to chat. At any rate, after he had bored me with his chatting, he felt that it was time to say goodbye. Right before he left, he said, "Don't kill anyone." I found this somewhat funny, so I let out a chuckle. He looked at me as I did so, and I could tell that he was serious. This royally pissed me off. Honestly, how fucking rude is that? Yeah, I know I don't have the most cheerful demeanor sometimes, even without considering where I work. But to assume that I would just up and kill someone is foolish and quite insensitive, especially for a chatty sap like him. Next time that jerk wishes to involve me in his prate, he'll meet nothing but my cold shoulder.
    Don't you find it more liberating to just say "Wtf do you mean?".

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