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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachelinpa View Post
    Well, that's good to know. Oddly enough, I said that and he was like "yeah, that's true." So, what do you do with someone who candidly admits to being self-centered and focused? Stay away from them? Then who will love them!?!?
    Call him on it more often. If he gets sick of it, he won't want to be friends with you and there's nothing you can do about it. You're only enabling him by encouraging this sort of behaviour and it sends the message that others will also put up with it.

    You wouldn't be rejecting him as a friend, but sending the message that you accept certain standards of behaviour from people you call your friend.
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    Call him on it more often. If he gets sick of it, he won't want to be friends with you and there's nothing you can do about it. You're only enabling him by encouraging this sort of behaviour and it sends the message that others will also put up with it.

    You wouldn't be rejecting him as a friend, but sending the message that you accept certain standards of behaviour from people you call your friend.
    Good advice. I call him out as often as I can, I do. It puzzles me that he thinks he can get away with certain stuff though.

    One time I was driving us somewhere and he was like "Cut that guy off!" And, I snapped at him and said "Don't tell me what to do! Why don't you drive. Do people always listen to you?" And he said, "Most people would have done it." Implying that he is used to people he perceives as being a pushover will do whatever he says. He had (ironically) sort of said at one point that he was concerned that I would be taken advantage of in my life. It's like he sees my kindness as a weakness though and doesn't recognize that I can set boundaries if I have to. I would just rather give people the benefit of the doubt... and being kind to people I like isn't so much a virtue or something I strive for... as what comes naturally to me.

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    It would be good if you warn any of your other friends that know him about this behaviour. You can't fight it by yourself. Whether he feels remorse is secondary and isn't something you can control. All that matters is that he stops this sort of destructive behaviour around you.
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    Well I am a sociopath and a VERY clear ESTP. After testing and reading the description of ESTP it was almost creepy how well it explained my life/personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    INTPs are more "schizoid" if anything. They can end up shunning emotion/connection in favor of impersonal analysis of everything. If someone does become too detached from their emotions and other people's emotions, yes, they can start behaving in ways that are very hurtful to others, but the psychopathology of the sociopath is much different than the typical INTP.

    Most INTPs get frustrated, hurt, angry, whatnot, by society and its restrictions; and eventually can "shut off" their empathy. But they still had it to begin with.

    Sociopaths are very different. They are numb to empathy to start with, it seems. Other people are only objects. Sociopaths are completely self-centered, basically amoral and solipsistic in nature. They just do whatever pleases them in the moment; and if someone else gets in their way, they coldly and methodically will remove them. Impersonal, numb, and cold would be good ways to describe it; people are nothing more than scraps of paper to be crumpled up and discarded if inconvenient, and otherwise they can be ignored. It is like the ability to connect, empathize, and understand (and/or care) about others has been burned out of them.
    Is it just me, or does this describe a really extreme ESTP? INTP's are definitely schizoid. Psychologists have pressured me to get more friends, to take drugs because they thought that I am depressed, and other crazy shit that E's think is called fixing the introvert.

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    The word "sociopath" is nothing more than a word to describe people who take to acting without emotion or empathy in the extreme, and it is a word with a strong emotional/judgmental baggage attached to it by Feeler types who would demonize such diametrically opposed behavior. There is nothing wrong with a sociopath save for when that sociopath goes to the extreme of harming/killing others.

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    It has been my experience that many highly extroverted individuals will falsely label you as a sociopath if you do not cater to their insatiable need to whore attention and ingratiate themselves at your expense. They do this without a hint of shame, despite the fact that they are the ones exhibiting anti-social behavior.


    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    Is it just me, or does this describe a really extreme ESTP? INTP's are definitely schizoid. Psychologists have pressured me to get more friends, to take drugs because they thought that I am depressed, and other crazy shit that E's think is called fixing the introvert.
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    Its important to note the distinction between sociopath behavior and anti-social behavior or tendencies. I am a sociopath, without doubt. Even to the point that I feel awkward in situations where I know that an emotional response or behavior is required of me, and I have to logically and consciously mimic the response that I think is required. That being said, I am an extremely social person and most definitely would be labeled an extrovert (at least to the untrained eye..or trained eye for that matter). Sociopath behavior/tendencies does NOT equate to an urge to harm others. Those close do, however, tend to get harmed due to the lack of empathy inherent in sociopaths. This is more likely to be an emotional harm than it is a physical harm though.

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    Ive been accused of being a sociopath, an autistic, and supposedly "looking like a rapist" :p
    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh? wgah'nagl fhtagn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuable_Money View Post
    Ive been accused of being a sociopath, an autistic, and supposedly "looking like a rapist" :p
    Something only an F would say .

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