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    Well one things for sure. You will certainly have an interesting time bringing him up either way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ99 View Post
    Well one things for sure. You will certainly have an interesting time bringing him up either way!
    Oh yeah .. I love a challenge, this is going to be an interesting few years.

    Its all good.
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    I haven't bothered reading any of the replies.

    What I always wanted when I was a kid is just for people to be FRANK with me. I hated with people talked to me as an "adult" trying to "set me straight", or as an authoritative figure giving me the usual speeches and lectures.

    I just wanted to be talked to on equal grounds. For example, I would often have legitimate arguments that countered things my parents were telling me, but instead of reasoning with me or telling me WHY I should listen to them, they just stood firm and essentially said "because I said so". NEVER do this to an ENTP, of any age for that matter.

    Make him realize through a legitimate discussion that he is fucking up his life, and that what he is doing is irrational and stupid. Don't be afraid to be harsh and frank, tell it like it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenomite View Post
    I haven't bothered reading any of the replies.

    What I always wanted when I was a kid is just for people to be FRANK with me. I hated with people talked to me as an "adult" trying to "set me straight", or as an authoritative figure giving me the usual speeches and lectures.

    I just wanted to be talked to on equal grounds. For example, I would often have legitimate arguments that countered things my parents were telling me, but instead of reasoning with me or telling me WHY I should listen to them, they just stood firm and essentially said "because I said so". NEVER do this to an ENTP, of any age for that matter.

    Make him realize through a legitimate discussion that he is fucking up his life, and that what he is doing is irrational and stupid. Don't be afraid to be harsh and frank, tell it like it is.
    Agreed. "Because I said so" and "I know I'm right [but I won't explain how]" were/sometimes still are the bane of my existence re: my parents. Yes, it temporarily closes the discussion, but it alienates us. And when I told this to my parents, they told me that I couldn't see their logic because I don't have their life experience. *sigh* Don't do that to yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    He needs male role models in his life. Someone who can teach him how to channel his full energy. Most women can't do that.
    Whoa! Wait a minute, are you saying that mothers are incapable of raising healthy, well-rounded sons on their own, or that fathers cannot do the same with their daughters?

    I am extremely troubled by this because you seem to think that children can only relate to and be raised well by members of their own gender. Role models are just that, someone to teach a child to be a better person, and the last time I checked, gender and gender roles have little to do with determining whether a person is considered good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc790 View Post
    Whoa! Wait a minute, are you saying that mothers are incapable of raising healthy, well-rounded sons on their own, or that fathers cannot do the same with their daughters?

    I am extremely troubled by this because you seem to think that children can only relate to and be raised well by members of their own gender. Role models are just that, someone to teach a child to be a better person, and the last time I checked, gender and gender roles have little to do with determining whether a person is considered good.
    Thank you.
    I really didn't want to go there, too many other little fires to put out...

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    Lol. Well i already have that one pegged. I speak to both my kids not as children but as human beings, i never talk down to them. I am usually blunt and to the point. Better to get 100% honesty the first time than some fluffy bullshit that isn't going to help in the slightest.

    Oh i am getting competitive with him. We are both at the moment trying to see who can learn to play Fur Elize in full the quickest using both hands. Sigh.

    I have done a pretty good job raising my boys but i do think they need a man around. Quite some time ago my hubby was checking the history on the computer and had to spoke to my eldest about internet porn. Lmao. I just wouldn't of been able to handle that one. My eldest also wants to start to shave. Tut.
    My youngest enjoys being around adults so that would make sense.

    I got another call from the school yesterday, fuck. So off i went thinking what the hell has happened now. The shit hit the fan but not the way i was expecting it. Last lesson Elliot won a speed tying competition (A-Z in 4.8 seconds), the other kids thought he must of been cheating (no he is that damn good) so after some little bitch gobbed off that i should be dead and that it is good that his dad (stepdad) had left us. My son pinned her against the wall by the scruff of the neck. Teacher physically pushed Elliot twice and he fell into the lockers then grabbed him and took him to the vice principal. They had to call me as Elliot was in tears and his arm was badly marked up (reasonable force, your having a laugh). Elliot just wanted to call the police, lol. Anyway they have a week off now. I have to take in back on the Monday after next and look how we progress with this matter.

    And now we have a second computer, i don't think he will ever leave the dining room (might just put his bed in there)
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