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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    To the core is a subjective matter that only that person can figure out. Not you, nor I can call that shot. (maybe psych professionals, and they may give it a fancy name, btw are you one?)
    Am I one what?
    An asshole or a psychologist?
    An asshole who is a psychologist?
    An asshole who isn't a psychologist?
    A psychologist who isn't an asshole?
    A psychological asshole?

    How about someone with a degree in psych who can at times be an asshole?

    I happen to disagree with you that the only person who can decide if they are an asshole to the core is the person in question.

    Frankly, they are the last person on earth to make that call .
    People rarely see themselves as they are, rather as they wish themselves to be.
    People have varying degrees of consciousness which is why I think MBTI is pointless.
    It doesn't assess what the person does in real-life circumstances.

    I'm going to end here since I'm starting to laugh;
    dissecting what is, and what is not, an asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    Tact=dishonesty
    I'm going to have to disagree with you, my good Professor. Tact is a method of delivering the truth in a manner tailored for the ears receiving it. I would never take the same approach with every person. My ESTJ mother prefers that I approach her in a manner much different from the way I approach my INFJ dad, or my INTJ bff, or my ENTP friends. You can tell the truth kindly while being firm.

    There's no need for a gaping flesh wound when you could avoid that AND relay your message. Tact is an art form of efficiency. I've been dealing with a particular ENTP male friend over the years about his methods of delivery - he's a really great guy, and shoots straight (which I love him for, I can't say that enough), but I told him that he's going to have to learn some tact in order to get his views/messages heard by intolerant people (and perhaps powerful people who can make or break his career aspirations) who may not grant him the audience he requires.

    I'm his friend, if he wants to say something blunt or awful he can say it, knowing that I'm going to return the favor. Truth is to be admired and the method of it's execution.
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    To add to that, tact is delivering the truth in a way to minimize emotional scarring and backlash.

    If you can say the truth in a way that A) hurts the person and invokes an emotional reaction that makes them less cooperative or B) makes the person glad for your honesty, what do you choose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Tact is an art form of efficiency.

    Truth is to be admired and the method of it's execution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    To add to that, tact is delivering the truth in a way to minimize emotional scarring and backlash.
    So wise. It's easier said than done, but I'm still learning. I'm only 32, after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    To add to that, tact is delivering the truth in a way to minimize emotional scarring and backlash.

    If you can say the truth in a way that A) hurts the person and invokes an emotional reaction that makes them less cooperative or B) makes the person glad for your honesty, what do you choose?
    You surely excel at mastering the skill of repeated mistakes, so rather than looking at this as me firing you, I hope you see this as an opportunity to be presented with the freedom to fully embrace this special skill of yours, full time.

    Thank YOU!! I love you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    To add to that, tact is delivering the truth in a way to minimize emotional scarring and backlash.

    If you can say the truth in a way that A) hurts the person and invokes an emotional reaction that makes them less cooperative or B) makes the person glad for your honesty, what do you choose?
    Well said, Udawg. That's the point I try to make with him. That's it's not manipulation, it's about working successfully and efficiently within a social frame work that compels his willing/unwilling participation. He doesn't have to be buddies with anyone. I just want him to understand that he doesn't get all that far by being harsh, that truth is a weapon that can't be fired point-blank unless he's actually trying to take someone down.

    I try to reinforce his views though if he's right about something/someone. I don't want him to feel that I'm not hearing him. But the method does matter when it comes to human interaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    But the method does matter when it comes to human interaction.
    this is why I long for the day when AI will filter out that need...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    So wise. It's easier said than done, but I'm still learning. I'm only 32, after all...
    Same here, babe... 32 and still learning when not to drop the blade on someone's neck. Being an ENFJ - you hear the guillotine thumping at any hour of the day or night. While tact may be an NT problem, I have to learn restraint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    You surely excel at mastering the skill of repeated mistakes, so rather than looking at this as me firing you, I hope you see this as an opportunity to be presented with the freedom to fully embrace this special skill of yours, full time.

    Thank YOU!! I love you!!!
    Delightfully euphemistic. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    this is why I long for the day when AI will filter out that need...
    Jude Law sex bots, here we come. (oh dear, what a terrible pun I just made...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    So wise. It's easier said than done, but I'm still learning. I'm only 32, after all...
    As long as you try. I imagine it has to be like walking on a mine field where you only have the vaguest of ideas where the mines are located. There are alot of people out there that reward points for effort. As long as you don't run out there, screaming, jumping wildly up and down everywhere trying to hit off as many mines as possible, you deserve some credit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    You surely excel at mastering the skill of repeated mistakes, so rather than looking at this as me firing you, I hope you see this as an opportunity to be presented with the freedom to fully embrace this special skill of yours, full time.

    Thank YOU!! I love you!!!
    :yim_rolling_on_the_

    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Jude Law sex bots, here we come. (oh dear, what a terrible pun I just made...)
    If by terrible, you mean sexy. /Zap Brannigan

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