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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    This is a bit OT, but I want to know: for those that say love is not the only factor that would induce you to marriage, do you mean:

    (1) Love is the only thing that inclines you to marriage, but that inclination may be reduced by other factors besides love (e.g., not marrying a carny because he's not financially stable, even though you love him/her).

    (2) Love is not the only thing that inclines you to marriage. Financial success, social status, some other pleasing factor are equal contributors to your inclination to marry a person (e.g., you would marry a person even if you didn't love them that much, but you loved their car or their money or whatever).
    I didn't marry the carnie because he was bat shit insane, not about the money. Money comes and goes and I don't factor that into my relationships...

    For me, I would have to be in love with the person's character - this is a prerequisite. I would never marry someone I didn't love. But in addition, I need to feel that we are on the same path. Love doesn't guarantee understanding or compatibility. If I was in deeply in love with a man, and let's say he was adamant about having 10 children, I would have to pass. I love him enough to let him go and follow that path with someone else, but I love myself enough to not deny my own path. Does that make sense?

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    I like the idea of INFPs, but I just don't enjoy their company. I'd rather have an INFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    What the INFP can bring to the ENTP... I have to admit I haven't figured that out yet. I don't mean that in an, "I'm so insecure I don't think INFPs are worthy" sense, but in a "I haven't pin pointed what ways I make their lives better" sense.
    What my INFP ex brought me that I loved in him was the lack of pressure. He was laid back and not interested in drama, in that respect we were coming from the same place. I adore the INFJs in my life but I do feel judged by them at times, when I feel judged I hold back things in myself that I think they'd consider less than desirable. With my INFP there was never any expectations on me to be anything other than who I am, he wouldnt do that to anyone, this meant I could be my quirky self without wondering if I was showing too much, meaning, I could let my Ne go crazy.

    The main issue is the Fe relief function of the ENTP and how it can square off against the Dom Fi of an INFP. ENTPs poke and prod against the INFPs value system, trying to better understand it. I suspect this usually stems from a genuine curiosity in Fi. It's foreign, they want to know more, and INFPs are annoyingly persistent in keeping it hidden.

    INFPs are distrustful and usually have a negative reaction to anyone forcing our values out before we are ready. We identify our values with who we are. So while we prefer to choose when to open up, ENTPs just want us to open up already.
    That was a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    For me, I would have to be in love with the person's character - this is a prerequisite. I would never marry someone I didn't love. But in addition, I need to feel that we are on the same path. Love doesn't guarantee understanding or compatibility. If I was in deeply in love with a man, and let's say he was adamant about having 10 children, I would have to pass. I love him enough to let him go and follow that path with someone else, but I love myself enough to not deny my own path. Does that make sense?
    That's actually a pretty awesome answer. I mean, hopefully you'd understand that I'd have to fluff that up with NFP gobbledygook (soulmates, existential connection, blah blah blah), but in essence, that's how I feel.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post
    I like the idea of INFPs, but I just don't enjoy their company. I'd rather have an INFJ.
    Hopefully you don't mind my asking, but why not? What is it about INFPs that doesn't work? What makes INFJs work where INFPs do not?

    *genuinely curious*

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    What my INFP ex brought me that I loved in him was the lack of pressure. He was laid back and not interested in drama, in that respect we were coming from the same place. I adore the INFJs in my life but I do feel judged by them at times, when I feel judged I hold back things in myself that I think they'd consider less than desirable. With my INFP there was never any expectations on me to be anything other than who I am, he wouldnt do that to anyone, this meant I could be my quirky self without wondering if I was showing too much, meaning, I could let my Ne go crazy.
    In general, I tend to believe that ENTP/INFJ is a strong match, but in this regard I think INFP might actually be a better fit. If I trust your character, and you do something I disagree with, my reaction is to trust that you have a reasoning, viewpoint, or motivation I don't understand. My primary goal then becomes to understand why before passing judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I didn't marry the carnie because he was bat shit insane, not about the money. Money comes and goes and I don't factor that into my relationships...

    For me, I would have to be in love with the person's character - this is a prerequisite. I would never marry someone I didn't love. But in addition, I need to feel that we are on the same path. Love doesn't guarantee understanding or compatibility. If I was in deeply in love with a man, and let's say he was adamant about having 10 children, I would have to pass. I love him enough to let him go and follow that path with someone else, but I love myself enough to not deny my own path. Does that make sense?
    I actually wasn't referring specifically to you when I mentioned the carny...I just read it in your post and couldn't get the example out of my head.

    As to your answer, I understand completely. I suppose, then, that your attitude technically falls under my (1) category, since love is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for marriage.
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    I'm an INFP and I had a friend who was an ENTP I think the main problem was that he was just incredibly distracted all of the time, that unavailability was a rough spot, I take accountability for this too. Perhaps it wouldn't have been as much of an obstacle had I been more aggressive in trying to make the friendship work and being more extroverted when dealing with him and his schedule. But that being said it was hard to get a hold of him.

    There were times when we had really good conversations, really thought provoking stuff about religion, scientific conversations about dimensions, relationships, etc. But I notice it was all rather random and all of these conversations happened at parties or random meetings around campus, nothing was ever planned. I kind of wanted something more concrete. In that matter I was always the one who had to extend myself and put myself out there and there were times when I felt rejected (which may just be my over sensitivity). But there were other times when he just disappeared and brushed off plans that were made. There was this one time when we were supposed to go to a party for my birthday that really hurt. But I hear that my be a common problem on the ENTP side.

    There were times when I felt criticized just because I was unable to read him and I didn't understand the way he would communicate towards me, we actually got into an argument about that. I think that may have strained our communication because I often at times felt he was angry with me (when he probably wasn't) and I was under an impression that he didn't like me or didn't want me around, which is a problem with the INFP personality. So in that regard I can see how the power play comes in that was talked about in previous posts.

    I always felt that he had all of the power in our friendship. I eventually stopped talking to him due to the power imbalance I felt. But there were a lot of good moments in our relationship as well. I remember there was one time when I had to go to the emergency room and he was there threw it all making jokes, he was with me in the room and I was extremely grateful for that, that's one of the reasons I tried for so long towards the end.

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    Of the extroverts, the ENTP is one of the most likely to give me space when I need or ask for it. I'd probably have less of an issue if I could just allow them to talk and not worry about if it will happen. Unfortunately I like to have some things to look forward to and so far I haven't found that anywhere near a strength in an ENTP.
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    i like infps

    they are unconfidant but they are smart. they just need to know that i wont put down everything they say. and if (when) i do, ill explain to them why i did what i did. i value infp opinions and ideas very much

    theyd be the best people to work on a project with and then to out for a beer with afterwards....not so much when it comes to clubbing though

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    Ahh I ceebs reading the thread so if I repeat some points... please forgive.

    Okay, so. I've had my eye on an INFP for about a year, a year an half now. (Sidenote: is it weird for an ENTP to do this?) And though I find him incredibly sexy, his 'not giving anything way' annoys the fuck out of me. And is this with all INFPs but do they not use any smileys or exclamation marks? It's like they consciously choose to be cold or something... I don't care if it's to 'protect' themselves. (Sidenote 2: is Kristen Stewart an INFP?)

    INFJs - now there's a generally warm, crackling fireplacey personality type. And now I can't be bothered explaining why. Probably come back to this tomorrow so stay tuned!

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