[INTJ] What does an unhealthy INTJ look like?

[spin-1/2-nuclei]

I don't really want to debate his entire life either.



I see his suicide as more of a slap in the face to his enemies. To allow oneself to be made an example of, by those who you despise, is not honourable in the slightest. What honor and bravery is there in submission? None.

They made an example of Mussolini; one that opposed his ideals. Hitler would have been paraded about like a prize and then executed in the name of something he did not believe in.

A coward would have begged for mercy.



A dying slap in the face is a slap in the face. The troops were trained to kill others, not themselves and that is what they did, and that is why they died. They died in the name of a cause they believed in. Each soldier had the capacity to commit suicide with his gun, yet they chose to point it at the enemy instead, because they believed in something.

Sure, Hitler could have ran out onto the battlefield with a pea-shooter and a flag, but if he had died on the field, morale would have died with him; along with each mans reason to fight. He did not surrender in the slightest and neither did his men.

I also find it strange that you believe suicide is comfortable.



Yes, he killed himself because he didn't get his way... Heh.



As if they would have let him live... A laughable thought. Secondly, he did go down fighting with his men as they died believing in something he helped create. He gave them purpose. They all died in Berlin, my friend.

Obviously the paragraph I wrote before really did need to be written... Either way I never said they would have let him live after his trial. That really wasn't the point. The point was if you're going to die anyway it matters how you choose to die and in my opinion Hitler chose to die how he lived - like a coward.

 

[Arthur Schopenhauer]

Obviously the paragraph I wrote before really did need to be written... Either way I never said they would have let him live after his trial. That really wasn't the point. The point was if you're going to die anyway it matters how you choose to die and in my opinion Hitler chose to die how he lived - like a coward.

Incorrect.

 

[highlander]

Well the whole discussion seems pointless - that is to debate whether or not one of the greatest mass murderers of all time was brave or was a coward.

 

[Arthur Schopenhauer]

Well the whole discussion seems pointless - that is to debate whether or not one of the greatest mass murderers of all time was brave or was a coward.

Everything is pointless. Yet here we are...

 

[Kalach]

The document I provided illustrates behavior that is clearly INTJ behavior. http://library.lawschool.cornell.ed...ons/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section1.pdf

Awfully focused on recreating and redressing past relationships. Impressively affected by past relationships, in fact. And prone to relationship metaphors.

But I got bored by page 11. On page 12 we discover how his substantive thinking used impersonal solution-making and grand mechanistic overviews?

 

[highlander]

Awfully focused on recreating and redressing past relationships. Impressively affected by past relationships, in fact. And prone to relationship metaphors.

But I got bored by page 11. On page 12 we discover how his substantive thinking used impersonal solution-making and grand mechanistic overviews?

Actually, it got more interesting after that.

 

[Kalach]

Fair enough. I got to page 40 this time. (And along the way, passed this:

It is important to note. however, that Hitler has a large measure of control over his complexes. He uses an emotional outburst to get his way, turning it on or off as the occasion requires.)

Indeed it was an interesting document.

 

[highlander]

Fair enough. I got to page 40 this time. (And along the way, passed this:

It is important to note. however, that Hitler has a large measure of control over his complexes. He uses an emotional outburst to get his way, turning it on or off as the occasion requires.)

Indeed it was an interesting document.

I once worked with an executive who did that. It seemed like she thought she was being effective with it. I was never sure why.

 

[Arthur Schopenhauer]

Interesting document.

 

[HomerSoprano]

An unhealthy intj uses sctathing sarcasm to everyone around them for no obvious reason.

 

[Biaxident]

An unhealthy intj uses scathing sarcasm to everyone around them for no obvious reason.

Heh. Quite a few of them on this board.

 

[Nicodemus]

 

[sciguy90]

An unhealthy intj uses sctathing sarcasm to everyone around them for no obvious reason.

No, that's how we deal with the stupids.

 

[Browser]

This is interesting.
It seems you can know unhealthy Intjs by their attempts to alienate themselves from other people by showing emphasis for people they know most other people will find disgusting and thereby create a conflict that on one hand gives the Intj some attention and on the other hand isolates them further than they already are.

Do you other types out there(intps, infj and so on) act like this as well or have we found a way of spotting unhealthy INTJs?

 

[Browser]

And yes my post above is itself written pretty heartless...
I'm just not that good with feelings, though I'm working at it :workout:

 

[ThatGirl]

You wont be working through that here. Lol.

 

[Elfboy]

 

[Nicodemus]

 

[Rex]

He was an artist. A painter..
He had seemingly strong views on food and how things in that area should be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_vegetarianism

He a was a ace at school in the early years.. then he failed getting the best degrees and stubbornly quitet.
He enjoyed commanding other kids around.. recreating battles. younger kids.. hes equals did not look up to him anymore.

Hitler cared nothing for academic freedom. On the contrary, he harbored a deep hatred of academic success, which was so much at odds with his own indolence and inadequacy. In 1904 and 1905, when he attended the high school for science at Linz,, he failed to reach even a mediocre level and left at age sixteen without graduating.



Hitler’s readings comprised a hotchpotch mixture of ancient religion, occultism, astrology, eugenics, nationalist politics and an atavistic hatred of Jews, gypsies, socialists and liberals.

Read more at Suite101: Hitler's Germany: Perverting the Education System http://www.suite101.com/content/hit...ng-the-education-system-a234591#ixzz1ERLpBqsV

He seems irrational. i mean he skippet school several times just because he was not the best.. But he was a great builder of cities and roads and so on. He was more of a artistic type it seems..
He tried to get into a art school twise..

ffs i have AD/HD and i have never quited any school or class. I stick to it even when im at the edge or failure and i have never had a failure at school... Never have i needed to retake a course and so on.
by giving up you are guaranteed to lose.
But then again im weak N over S soo...( according to tests, i feel im very pattern oriented)

btw i liked many of the arguments to the INTPs in this thread.

INTJ about hitler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upv5hkd6lwQ

 

[Arthur Schopenhauer]

When I am feeling irritable, I tend to become more blunt rather than more sarcastic. The bluntness generally keeps people away and disinterested in conversation, which is what I want, minimal contact. The bluntness is borderline rude but not rude enough to cause problems between myself and others, as I dislike dealing with the drama that can result from that sort of behavior...

I become a silent hermit that may or may not like you but definitely doesn't want to converse.