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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentMind View Post
    I don't really want to debate his entire life either.



    I see his suicide as more of a slap in the face to his enemies. To allow oneself to be made an example of, by those who you despise, is not honourable in the slightest. What honor and bravery is there in submission? None.

    They made an example of Mussolini; one that opposed his ideals. Hitler would have been paraded about like a prize and then executed in the name of something he did not believe in.

    A coward would have begged for mercy.



    A dying slap in the face is a slap in the face. The troops were trained to kill others, not themselves and that is what they did, and that is why they died. They died in the name of a cause they believed in. Each soldier had the capacity to commit suicide with his gun, yet they chose to point it at the enemy instead, because they believed in something.

    Sure, Hitler could have ran out onto the battlefield with a pea-shooter and a flag, but if he had died on the field, morale would have died with him; along with each mans reason to fight. He did not surrender in the slightest and neither did his men.

    I also find it strange that you believe suicide is comfortable.



    Yes, he killed himself because he didn't get his way... Heh.



    As if they would have let him live... A laughable thought. Secondly, he did go down fighting with his men as they died believing in something he helped create. He gave them purpose. They all died in Berlin, my friend.
    Obviously the paragraph I wrote before really did need to be written... Either way I never said they would have let him live after his trial. That really wasn't the point. The point was if you're going to die anyway it matters how you choose to die and in my opinion Hitler chose to die how he lived - like a coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin-1/2-nuclei View Post
    Obviously the paragraph I wrote before really did need to be written... Either way I never said they would have let him live after his trial. That really wasn't the point. The point was if you're going to die anyway it matters how you choose to die and in my opinion Hitler chose to die how he lived - like a coward.
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    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Well the whole discussion seems pointless - that is to debate whether or not one of the greatest mass murderers of all time was brave or was a coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    Well the whole discussion seems pointless - that is to debate whether or not one of the greatest mass murderers of all time was brave or was a coward.
    Everything is pointless. Yet here we are...
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    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtmac_46 View Post
    The document I provided illustrates behavior that is clearly INTJ behavior. http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu...r-Section1.pdf
    Awfully focused on recreating and redressing past relationships. Impressively affected by past relationships, in fact. And prone to relationship metaphors.

    But I got bored by page 11. On page 12 we discover how his substantive thinking used impersonal solution-making and grand mechanistic overviews?
    Bellison uncorked a flood of horrible profanity, which, translated, meant, "This is extremely unusual."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Awfully focused on recreating and redressing past relationships. Impressively affected by past relationships, in fact. And prone to relationship metaphors.

    But I got bored by page 11. On page 12 we discover how his substantive thinking used impersonal solution-making and grand mechanistic overviews?
    Actually, it got more interesting after that.

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    Fair enough. I got to page 40 this time. (And along the way, passed this:

    It is important to note. however, that Hitler has a large measure of control over his complexes. He uses an emotional outburst to get his way, turning it on or off as the occasion requires.)

    Indeed it was an interesting document.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    Fair enough. I got to page 40 this time. (And along the way, passed this:

    It is important to note. however, that Hitler has a large measure of control over his complexes. He uses an emotional outburst to get his way, turning it on or off as the occasion requires.)

    Indeed it was an interesting document.
    I once worked with an executive who did that. It seemed like she thought she was being effective with it. I was never sure why.

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    Interesting document.
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    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    An unhealthy intj uses sctathing sarcasm to everyone around them for no obvious reason.

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