[INTJ] Old INTJs

[Kalach]

What happens to them?

J means everything has to be about purpose. Se tracks immediate opportunities, and once in a while everything gets together to actually act, and sometimes it works. And the rest? Ni and Fi are all inside, waiting.

Waiting.

Seems a bit like always waiting.

The big ole Ni is always there, getting bigger... for what purpose? I mean, ultimately what purpose? Te means it's supposed to be some purpose "out there".

Then what?


Has always bugged me, this question, and getting older without a strong sense of the past or that much of a connection to people kinda makes everything always about how the tomorrows are numbered.

Bleh. Time to buy a sports car.

 

[ajblaise]

Something like this happens:

Every time.

 

[Kalach]

I shall prefer the Bill Nighy version:

Your incompetence is becoming most... taxing.

 

[FigerPuppet]

They usually evaporate together with INFJs and join the board of directors at Yahweh Inc., controlling the Universe one flowchart at a time.

 

[Alrischa]

What happens to them?

Well, they grow old and die like everyone else, don't they? Unless they've managed to make themselves into robots or cure aging.

Well. Nothing so sinister, I hope. I hear from many older INTJs that they become more mellow in the strength of their preferences for INTJ. They usually become more F and more P, as far as I can see.

 

[Uytuun]

They ride off into the sunset on golden-scaled dragons, duh.

 

[entropie]

What happens to them?

J means everything has to be about purpose. Se tracks immediate opportunities, and once in a while everything gets together to actually act, and sometimes it works. And the rest? Ni and Fi are all inside, waiting.

Waiting.

Seems a bit like always waiting.

The big ole Ni is always there, getting bigger... for what purpose? I mean, ultimately what purpose? Te means it's supposed to be some purpose "out there".

Then what?


Has always bugged me, this question, and getting older without a strong sense of the past or that much of a connection to people kinda makes everything always about how the tomorrows are numbered.

Bleh. Time to buy a sports car.

You totally forgot the influence of other people in your equations, therefore they are flawed

 

[maliafee]

Noam Chomsky and Ghandi.

 

[ajblaise]

You totally forgot the influence of other people in your equations, therefore they are flawed

INTJs are influenced by other people?

 

[Kalach]

You totally forgot the influence of other people in your equations, therefore they are flawed

Totally dismissed the influence of other people. At least overtly.

Covertly though... whadya think the comment about "waiting" is in there for?

 

[matmos]

Alas, immortality would solve the problem of pointless contingency planning.

 

[runvardh]

They seem to become easier to talk to face to face and look like they're almost laughing more frequently.

 

[entropie]

Totally dismissed the influence of other people. At least overtly.

Covertly though... whadya think the comment about "waiting" is in there for?

But see thats where you are wrong. You are talking to me and the anger you build up to respond now totally is in your system. Or the idea... Therefore your equations are still flawed

 

[Kalach]

Wha? Anger?

Snippy replies from an INFJ might be anger. In INTJ it's melancholy.

 

[Misty_Mountain_Rose]

INTJ's are like a fine wine. They just get better and better with age. Or maybe it was that we became more like stinking cheese... I forget.

 

[nightning]

The theory relies on the premise that INTJs use these functions in this order: Ni Te Fi Se. This premise is false. All types uses all function. As we age, we tend to develop the other functions, including the illusive Si.

So Ni does not get bigger and bigger... nor do we have no past.

 

[five]

The theory relies on the premise that INTJs use these functions in this order: Ni Te Fi Se. This premise is false. All types uses all function. As we age, we tend to develop the other functions, including the illusive Si.

This is false. We do not develop all 8 functions. Only the first 4.

Some background.

I am 32. I have studied older INTJ's, Charles Munger (87) and Elon Musk (40) who sites Nicholas Tesla (INTJ) as someone he can learn from, extensively as well as younger INTJ's such as Mark Zuckerberg. (27)

The pattern is clear. Musk and Munger are no teddy bears. They are never ever ever ever going to develop Fe's. I had a an ESFJ girlfriend for a year and it influenced me slightly, my friends say I became more pleasant to hang out with in larger groups, but all that is just "emulation".

Munger is just as abrasive and riles people up the wrong way even at 87. It's not Aspergers or "unhealthy" it's just Te and being decisive, it is hardly ever personal.

Watch this video if you need more grounding on what actual INTJ's are like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K8NkJpUei4

Purpose and goals underly everything. Sitting on a forum all day is a highly improbably place to find actual INTJ's. They will have purpose and goals outside just knowledge for knowledge sake, like the NTP's. If actual INTJ's do stop by, they not going to be around long. Either they will learn what they need or will dismiss the entire community.

 

[five]

The theory relies on the premise that INTJs use these functions in this order: Ni Te Fi Se. This premise is false. All types uses all function. As we age, we tend to develop the other functions, including the illusive Si.

So Ni does not get bigger and bigger... nor do we have no past.

To answer the question though.

Se develops later in life, and the INTJ becomes more ISTP like. A lot of my good friends are ISTP and I do extreme sports with them, crack crude jokes and make observations about people (Se). STP's are fun to hang with because they are very grounded and down to earth.

However my Ni and Te is getting better and better with age. It's a bayesian network and the more positive inputs you feed it over time it gets better.

Some people call this "wisdom". Other types use other functions for wisdom. Eg Si is also associated with wisdom in other types.

 

[uncommonentity]

What [MENTION=13748]five[/MENTION] said.

In, Out, Up.

 

[Snoopy22]

They hardly ever become “something years young”.