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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I rarely take a definitive stance on anything, but once my mind is made up, it's done. I will have thoroughly vetted all the logic by that point. I'll listen and discuss, but my viewpoints will always be my own.

    If it's something that I don't care about, I'll probably never make up my mind about it and will just continue to gather knowledge with no concrete solution.

    It's almost like an ENTP door-slam (look at it from the other side of the door). It takes a while, but the view can eventually become "locked in."


    Everything else is just hanging out in the hallway.

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    i'm convinced that my first thought upon being born was "you're saying i came out of that? pfft. prove it."
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    ok you've convinced me. woo!

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    i think..

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    now i'm just a tad confused..

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    whimper

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    so the church of the spaghetti monster is looking for new converts eh..? well you can most definitely have mine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    i'm convinced that my first thought upon being born was "you're saying i came out of that? pfft. prove it."
    Yup, pretty much me. I'm very NON-IMPRESSIONABLE.

    I will soak it up like a sponge, everything I gather, and file away those that really piqued my interest, to investigate further on my own, or ask them to expound, and in my head, I may truly even consider it, if it just "clicks", but, there's always that skepticism, i.e., I won't truly consider it until and unless I have exhausted all possible holes (pun to the quote above), that I could think of for that X, therein.

    I will for the sake of it, take a position that I may actually personally disagree with, and fight FOR it to the death (this secures my understanding of my own side that I do agree with). I'm very stubborn in debates/arguments, to lax "my" side ("my" being whatever side I've chosen to argue). Not because I don't want to be proven wrong...but BECAUSE I want to be proven wrong. That's how I truly learn a concept. To exercise, through debate, my thinking on the topic, and ALL its possible angles, and ask the other to tear it apart (I'm silently begging, please). And, I will justify, justify, my side to the bitter end, if and ONLY if, logic still holds, because, if I feel there's a justification for "my" side, then, there's a 'hole' for the other........

    And, vice versa, as I get to attack, through dialogue, every possible hole/argument against my side, by holding on as strong as I do. If I give up my position too fast, I feel like I only just skimmed the issue. I need to rip it, the skin from the flesh, the flesh from the bones, the bones from the joints, the joint from the frame, the frame breaking to reveal the core of the truth/understanding. And, step by step, systematically so. Only then am I satisfied. (people, most times, interpret this as a negative trait, because I just keep coming, and coming at an issue, when it's really the idea I'm chasing with a vigor, not the person..meh)

    And, in this way, I feel I have learned.

    Although, I get impressionable about ideas for action, 'wanna do this? Try that? Wouldn't it be cool if we...?'
    But, ideas for mental deliberation, are hard to impress upon me unless you've (the other side) gone through the rigors and the ringer, of tearing that idea apart, and the core is still elemental. Only then will I accept.

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    I never think to myself "I know everything." There is always something missing, waiting to be understood. Even if I have all the facts, I still do not have a truly objective perspective on the meanings and significance of the facts. So I am always left hungry for more.

    Stay hungry, stay foolish.
    "Beware Those Who Are ALWAYS READING BOOKS" - Bukowski

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonster View Post
    I like to think I have a solid, logical understanding of the world. I like to think I can hold my own on debates and have a good - albeit somewhat fuzzy - understanding of my own views. But occasionally some whacko comes along, enticing me with their unfounded, radical, sometimes morally grey ideas and I can't help but say, "Well, when you put it that way..." This happens a lot especially in areas that I'm not too well-versed in. I can't test their facts. So if they present their arguments in a compelling and logically sound way, I can't help but believe them a little. They can never fully persuade me but for a split second, they can catch me off-guard and doubt my own opinions/moral integrity ("Wait, did I just admit to thinking child porn's okay?!").

    Of course this process is entirely internal; outside I may still be arguing my point relentlessly. It's just a bit unsettling to think that someone can mould me like putty if they do it the right way... just because my mind is wondering, "What if?"

    Anyone else?

    This sounds exactly like Ne haha. Good job. (knee-ha-ha)

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