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    Hm.. I dated an INTP for 3+ years, and we're still pretty close. We're a -lot- alike, but he's definitely a lot more into theoretical things and always hungry for intellectual conversation. He's absolutely brilliant. Definitely has more intellectual depth (at least when it comes to science and money.. haha) than most 23-year-olds I've met. I'm not usually interested in the same things he is (I love science and math, but get bored with theory, which is what he likes), but I know he needs someone to listen to him, so I always do my best. He actually is insecure (NOT saying all INTPs are), but mostly because I think he feels like he can't relate to anyone. He can't find anyone to talk about all his interests with him, and thus feels lonely a lot. He often voices that he doesn't know what he wants out of life, or that he simply can't find his calling. So maybe if you met an INTP that -was- insecure, this may be a pretty legit reason?

    Maybe I should get him on here to talk to all you other INTPs Oh, and if you other INTPs have any advice for him, I'll be happy to relay it... :P

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    Here's some empirical evidence for a thing. Let me know if you agree or disagree. But if you disagree, I'm going to keep pressing for some reason.

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    INTPs are not insecure, but I cannot speak for ENTPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post
    Here's some empirical evidence for a thing. Let me know if you agree or disagree. But if you disagree, I'm going to keep pressing for some reason.
    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post
    Here's some empirical evidence for a thing. Let me know if you agree or disagree. But if you disagree, I'm going to keep pressing for some reason.

    i get it.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    It was Empirical, but
    as a general rule signs of insecurity:
    1. Defensiveness
    Don't do this often.

    2. Excessive Joking -- lol
    I certainly joke a lot. Excessive though? Wouldn't that be entirely subjective? I don't think it's excessive, though naturally others will disagree.

    3. Self Promoting -- lol
    Um... As opposed to running the risk of not being promoted at all? Don't do this much anyway.

    4. Bullying -- in the case of intp, intellectual bullying
    Don't do this either. I genuinely don't care enough to bully. If I see someone as inferior, I'm much more likely to ignore than bully.


    And yes, that's not very good evidence. Unbacked assertions don't prove anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zarc View Post
    Setting someone up doesn't mean they've gone out of their way to do it, though. It doesn't imply much effort, especially because it's fairly easy for them to do it--unless of course the target isn't easy and is good game. Or maybe they're incredibly bored. Eh. If they've got a handle on Fe they're slyer with their manipulation.

    Seething? lol I doubt they'd care if their intelligence is questioned. I think what they'd care is that they're being questioned by someone of an 'obvious' lesser kind. But there is no seething. If they ever get irritated it's mostly against the object when they can't figure something/one out. They don't go after easier targets on principle. The thrill comes from obstacles. If you're easy prey or have become figured out, you're no longer interesting. They'll likely ignore you or prod you into making a big/ger fool of yourself (through Fe) just for a quickie laugh. And when finished with the quick n'easy bake, they'll toss the cake aside and ignore you for good.
    Well your opinions are nice in theory but do not stack up to the reality of the entps I know. I've known these individuals for fifteen years and yes they do in fact seethe, lol, when their intelligence is questioned. In fact they do so the most when it is done by one of our group who is much more intelligent than they are. Also contrary to your theory, when putting on a "show" they do go after the weakest of the bunch. They seem to get a perverse joy out of completely dominating the poor bastard mentally.

    Wait- here's a novel idea. Maybe anyone of any type can be insecure and it will just manifest differently dependant on the individual!

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    I understand the feeling of disconnect that INTPs may feel, as I feel that often as an INFP. That feeling may lead to insecurity. Of course, I think they enjoy being different at the same time. So it depends on how much they let the outside world get to them.

    The INTP I knew well enough to type was very insecure, but also very unhealthy. He definitely had an elitist attitude and thought most people are stupid, and it reeked of insecurity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    So I have been reading the threads and a common theme that emerges are INTP and ENTP are insecure especially INTP.

    Let me know if you agree or disagee with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    I judge from their need to berate others not necessarily, anybody said their insecure.
    Says the ENTJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    Even talking about how logical you are, in it self is insecure.

    You'll dont countersignal well.
    If it's the truth, it ain't bragging.

    Quote Originally Posted by chegra View Post
    So I have been reading the threads and a common theme that emerges are INTP and ENTP are insecure especially INTP.
    To truly try to know, is to know how much you don't know. You know?

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