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    I have a friend and we get along fabulously and mutually appreciate one another. I thought she was INFP then ENFP and it turns out she is ENTP. She has very well developed Fe. She's actually a yoga instructor.

    If you are an ENTP with well developed Fe, you very well may be confused for an ENTP. Just like if you are an ENFP with well developed Ti/Te you may get confused for an ENTP? I know, you can grumble about that in the NT personal threads.

    For me, I think Fe makes the difference in making an ENTP bearable to unbearable to enjoyable to be around. Fe takes the edge off being so self-absorbed and graceless and needing to one up people. (Yes, I have met ENTPs IRL like this)

    Unlike Fi, Fe is much more easily understood and received socially and is much more group minded (i.e. 'less sensitive' or unpredictable), so an ENTP with well developed Fe could very well maneuver much more easily in public spaces than an ENFP with well developed Fi.

    I know, it makes me grumble in the NF personal threads, too.
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    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
    their lack of Fe is why i like entps. people with alot of Fi/Fe make me look like jackass.
    if you entps start developing Fe im going to go hang out with the intjs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    ENTPs only have three functions:
    what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
    their lack of Fe is why i like entps. people with alot of Fi/Fe make me look like jackass.
    if you entps start developing Fe im going to go hang out with the intjs
    INTJs develop Fi as their tertiary. So forget them.

    It means you're doomed. Only INTPs and ENTJs are that infantile and severely unbalanced when it comes to expressing their emotions.
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    Random thought:

    (probably thunk before)

    The NTs:

    ENTJ - most like the Guardians (SJ)
    ENTP - most like the Artisans (SP)
    INTJ - most like the Idealists (NF)
    INTP - least like the other temperments, hence, (most extremes of the?) Rationals (NT?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Random thought:

    (probably thunk before)

    The NTs:

    ENTJ - most like the Guardians (SJ)
    ENTP - most like the Artisans (SP)
    INTJ - most like the Idealists (NF)
    INTP - least like the other temperments, hence, (most extremes of the?) Rationals (NT?)
    Indeed. It's the classic definition of NTs subtypes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Random thought:

    (probably thunk before)

    The NTs:

    ENTJ - most like the Guardians (SJ)
    ENTP - most like the Artisans (SP)
    INTJ - most like the Idealists (NF)
    INTP - least like the other temperments, hence, (most extremes of the?) Rationals (NT?)
    In a similar fashion:

    ENFJ - most like the Guardians (SJ)
    ENFP - most like the Artisans (SP)
    INFJ - most like the Rationals (NT)
    INFP - least like the other temperaments, hence most extreme of the NF Idealists?
    INFJ 9w1 sx/sp/so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollanaut View Post
    In a similar fashion:

    ENFJ - most like the Guardians (SJ)
    ENFP - most like the Artisans (SP)
    INFJ - most like the Rationals (NT)
    INFP - least like the other temperaments, hence most extreme of the NF Idealists?

    I was just going to do that for the other three temperments! You rock!

    The Artisans:
    ISTP - most like the Rationals (NT)
    ESTP -
    ISFP - most like the Idealists (NF)
    ESFP -

    The Guardians:
    ISTJ -
    ISFJ -
    ESFJ - most like the idealists (NF)
    ESTJ - most like the Rationals (NT)


    I am actually more unsure of these above (SJ and SP groupings). If we could categorize like this, I want to then see the order of functions that comes up, the patterns, and if we could get any clues to the crux of function (interaction of functions) that predict an inclination towards certain temperment.

    For example, a lot of people might say that ENTP may very well represent the Idealist type more than the Artisans, but, due to process of elimination, it wouldn't really leave the INTJ being well placed in the Artisan category. So there must be some commentary coming out of the interaction of functions.

    Dunno if that made sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post

    I was just going to do that for the other three temperments! You rock!
    So do you! I was literally writing up the other two temperaments when your post popped up!

    Here's my version:

    The Artisans:
    ISTP - most like the Rationals (NT)
    ISFP - most like the Idealists (NF)
    ESFP - most like the Guardians (SJ) - I'm thinking of my ESFP mother here!
    ESTP - most SP-like of the Artisans

    The Guardians:
    ISTJ - most like the Rationals (NT) - I've worked with many, many ISTJ scientists.
    ISFJ - most like the Idealists (NF) - I've often mistaken ISFJs for NF-types in real life.
    ESFJ - most like the Artisans (SP) - the ESFJs I've known are real party animals, (once they've fulfilled their duties to take care of others).
    ESTJ - most SJ-like of the Guardians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    INTJs develop Fi as their tertiary. So forget them.

    It means you're doomed. Only INTPs and ENTJs are that infantile and severely unbalanced when it comes to expressing their emotions.
    the istps then. entjs never shutup

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