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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    You mean when she first came here and started the thread, "Another ENTP"?

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post441754

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    You mean when she first came here and started the thread, "Another ENTP"?

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post441754
    I could have sworn she had ENFP in her profile at one point....
    Maybe I was just seeing with the eyes of truth, as is customary for NTs.
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    I think an important question to ask yourselves is *why* you debate a topic/issue.

    When I was in speech and debate in high school, I was forced to debate for issues I was vehemently against, a method that was used by my coach to hone our debate skills, but meh.

    I think in order to be a convincing arguer, you must take an issue, scan and dissect it, find any vulnerable kinks, (and most issues worthy of debate have at least one or two points of weakness), and, despite what your opponent states, bring up and dwell on those inherent weaknesses in order to foster doubt and uncertainty amongst your opponent as well as the audience, also, capitalizing on human weaknesses, with a pathos-filled delivery can't hurt much, either.

    And, meh.

    Me no likey!!!

    Whenever one engages in a debate, or in some hardcore discourse, they should maintain an intellectual integrity and their motives should be rooted in an attempt to reveal and understand a truer "truth", so to speak.

    It is never about winning or losing, it is always about clarifying and understanding, at least, for me it is.
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    I used to love L-D debate where I could fight for either side. I can see both sides of any issue I guess.h

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
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    Well, if someone said that to me, I'd believe them. Why the hell would someone be attracted to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by happy puppy View Post
    Your funny seizure enducing avatar. It makes me twitchy with love.
    That's a new reaction. *Adds to the list.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I think an important question to ask yourselves is *why* you debate a topic/issue.

    When I was in speech and debate in high school, I was forced to debate for issues I was vehemently against, a method that was used by my coach to hone our debate skills, but meh.

    I think in order to be a convincing arguer, you must take an issue, scan and dissect it, find any vulnerable kinks, (and most issues worthy of debate have at least one or two points of weakness), and, despite what your opponent states, bring up and dwell on those inherent weaknesses in order to foster doubt and uncertainty amongst your opponent as well as the audience, also, capitalizing on human weaknesses, with a pathos-filled delivery can't hurt much, either.

    And, meh.

    Me no likey!!!

    Whenever one engages in a debate, or in some hardcore discourse, they should maintain an intellectual integrity and their motives should be rooted in an attempt to reveal and understand a truer "truth", so to speak.

    It is never about winning or losing, it is always about clarifying and understanding, at least, for me it is.
    I agree with this--I really don't like to debate for sport. It's tiresome. I like a discussion where both sides really are trying to come to some sort of "truth" to be agreed on, accepting that sometimes both sides will come to an impasse, but with no harm or disrespect meant. I hate getting into arguments where the other side is just looking for a word you might have used the incorrect tense of, or some such. I would have been up for that kind of stuff in high school, but it takes up too much of my energy to worry with now. Either we're trying to understand each other or we're not. If we have wildly different opinions, we're not likely to change each other's minds anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I think an important question to ask yourselves is *why* you debate a topic/issue.

    When I was in speech and debate in high school, I was forced to debate for issues I was vehemently against, a method that was used by my coach to hone our debate skills, but meh.

    I think in order to be a convincing arguer, you must take an issue, scan and dissect it, find any vulnerable kinks, (and most issues worthy of debate have at least one or two points of weakness), and, despite what your opponent states, bring up and dwell on those inherent weaknesses in order to foster doubt and uncertainty amongst your opponent as well as the audience, also, capitalizing on human weaknesses, with a pathos-filled delivery can't hurt much, either.

    And, meh.

    Me no likey!!!

    Whenever one engages in a debate, or in some hardcore discourse, they should maintain an intellectual integrity and their motives should be rooted in an attempt to reveal and understand a truer "truth", so to speak.

    It is never about winning or losing, it is always about clarifying and understanding, at least, for me it is.
    Lol, reading this I realize just how much of a hippie I must sound like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    I hate getting into arguments where the other side is just looking for a word you might have used the incorrect tense of, or some such.

    Either we're trying to understand each other or we're not. If we have wildly different opinions, we're not likely to change each other's minds anyway.
    QFT!!!

    Preach it!

    There is a time when semantics is important and appropriate in a debate, but lord knows I hate a weasel who depends on the malleability of words and their definitions to harp on moot points.

    :steam:

    Also, "Either we're trying to understand each other or we're not. If we have wildly different opinions, we're not likely to change each other's minds anyway." <--- Wisest words I've come across today!!!
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    Veritatem dies aperit

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