User Tag List

Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Science as art

  1. #1

    Default Science as art

    What do you NTs think when you finish your creations in science?

    I know as an ENFP I tend to liken my science work to creating art, and perfecting the system is a form of art. I tend to sit back and look at the final product as a beautiful piece of creation. I get the feeling all types are really happy when they create something new and cool.

    What is the difference for NTs from us? Do you think, "this is a solid system that will calculate the answer precisely to...", or do you think, "behold my beautiful shining masterpiece", or do you think both?
    Freude, schöner Götterfunken Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum! Deine Zauber binden wieder Was die Mode streng geteilt; Alle Menschen werden Brüder, Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

  2. #2
    rawr Costrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    5w4
    Socionics
    LII
    Posts
    2,320

    Default

    Meh, I don't really care about the finished product. It's the process itself that is much more interesting to me and could be described as "art". I love the process of figuring out the missing piece that explains everything (of course, there has to be a release some time, otherwise it wears off). As long as what I'm doing continues to provides puzzles for me to solve, then I will continue to do it. When that runs out, I quickly get bored. When I get a finished product and look back on it, I don't really feel anything. It's done, over, time to move on to the next project. The product means nothing.

    imo

    Probably Ti/Te difference.
    "All humour has a foundation of truth."
    - Costrin

  3. #3

    Default

    Yeh, it can be strange, because I love creation, but don't care much for achievement. I think I just feel a connection with creations. And love admiring them .

    I think Te plays a part in the loving of optimisation and stuff. I notice I'm more into presentation than INTPs at work. You guys love the facts. But I have this urge to have what is on the page in a really clear form, like the ergonomics for the person reading it comes into it a lot. And the layout on the page has to be pleasing from close or at a distance. I've been known to change documents because the layout doesn't give me a good vibe or I don't see certain things quickly when I look at them.
    Freude, schöner Götterfunken Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum! Deine Zauber binden wieder Was die Mode streng geteilt; Alle Menschen werden Brüder, Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

  4. #4
    DoubleplusUngoodNonperson
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    MBTI
    Hype
    Posts
    2,078

    Default

    "art and science come from the same human faculty" -von Goethe

    the theoretical physicist needs as much, if not more, imagination as the surrealist painter.


    oh, but wait that's not what you were asking..... ummmmm, i don't think anything yet cuz I haven't finalized any of my stuff yet.... it's always on drawing board and being rewritten!

  5. #5
    Senior Member sculpting's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4,226

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    I've been known to change documents because the layout doesn't give me a good vibe or I don't see certain things quickly when I look at them.
    I spend a lot of time enhancing the "flow" of our software products. All the INTP programmers think I am a crackhead and make comments about "how stupid can our scientist customers really be?" Yet when the customers see the final product they love it and talk about how much better the flow is.

    I think as an ENFP maybe we have a knack for understanding the way others-especially Ns think and take in the information when it is presented to them. We pick up on "hiccups" in the flow.

    We tend to make very good trainers as well, becuase we see the subtle cues when the NT recepient didnt quite understand the material but is too self concoius to ask a question.

  6. #6
    Senior Member sculpting's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4,226

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    What do you NTs think when you finish your creations in science?

    I know as an ENFP I tend to liken my science work to creating art, and perfecting the system is a form of art. I tend to sit back and look at the final product as a beautiful piece of creation. I get the feeling all types are really happy when they create something new and cool.

    What is the difference for NTs from us? Do you think, "this is a solid system that will calculate the answer precisely to...", or do you think, "behold my beautiful shining masterpiece", or do you think both?
    I thought science was beautiful. I loved the patterns and complexity and I had moments of religious awe in certain courses-notably Biochemistry when learning about signal transduction pathways and in P.Chem when learning about orbital theory and how the P orbitals are actually mathmatical constructs with imaginary components. Dude, WTF?

    That was part of the reason I gravitated towards biophysics in grad school was looking for the deeper answer to why does one protein interact with another. The asnwers to me would be beautiful and glowing and I could see pieces of patterns that my more solid NT collegues missed.

    However I found I lacked the long term stamina to plow through the hard times and once there was no emotional attachment to the data, I just didnt give a crap anymore.

Similar Threads

  1. users as art
    By WALMART in forum The Fluff Zone
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-18-2014, 08:40 PM
  2. When Government Propaganda Masquerades as Science
    By Octarine in forum Science, Technology, and Future Tech
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-12-2011, 06:42 AM
  3. Liberal Arts and Social Sciences
    By Metamorphosis in forum Academics and Careers
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 07-23-2010, 08:02 AM
  4. I freakin love mixed martial arts.
    By Alienclock in forum Arts & Entertainment
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 04-03-2008, 04:48 AM
  5. Untraditional art forms, an appreciation
    By Geoff in forum Arts & Entertainment
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 05-30-2007, 08:45 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO