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    Allergic to Mornings ergophobe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Has anyone said yet, I love my car, it doesnt ask me difficult questions ?
    My car does ask me difficult questions. It also expects me to just know what it's thinking when it starts flashing strange lights. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
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    I mean, that the enfps I know, are of course just as able to be rational as anybody else, but that the mental categories they use, relatively speaking, are way more 'flavored' than the more neutral categories I for example use. Which in my opinion, give them way more blindspots as far as 'stepping away from the situation' goes. There are always underlying values, positive and negative experience and so on lying just behind the surface.

    Now that doesn't have to apply to you, I don't know you, I'm talking from my experience with enfps and especially infps.
    You cannot hurt someone's feelings if s-he doesn't have a preference emotionally speaking between solution A and B. In the case of infps for example, this is not only untrue, but quite the exact opposite situation.
    And while the entp, going for the large and complete picture is trying to encompass a few aspects, he or she is just BOUND to touch some sensible fiber and spend more energy trying not to have people get all emotional while still driving the actual point home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ergophobe View Post
    Perhaps the difference is that you see resolving the conflict as the only goal and we see the future implications as important too - how can I avoid this event from repeating?
    But you also have to take into consideration, if we've had a huge emotional show down, the last thing we want is a huge emotional talk about it... and it will always be a huge emotional talk because it's almost impossible for some people to take criticism and continue to dialogue without getting defensive. The whole thought of a talk like that is just draining. Especially when these talks lead to nowhere because people always repeat their patterns...

    But again, my first instinct is that everyone is responsible for themselves. This other stuff is secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    But you also have to take into consideration, if we've had a huge emotional show down, the last thing we want is a huge emotional talk about it... and it will always be a huge emotional talk because it's almost impossible for some people to take criticism and continue to dialogue without getting defensive. The whole thought of a talk like that is just draining. Especially when these talks lead to nowhere because people always repeat their patterns...

    But again, my first instinct is that everyone is responsible for themselves. This other stuff is secondary.
    Thank you - that was a completely honest response and useful. I really appreciate it. I don't agree with people always repeating their patterns (I'm just naturally more optimistic in this realm, being an Nf and all). Also, personally, I'm working on learning how not to repeat my own patterns so I've got to believe it's possible. I completely understand the preference for taking the emotionally less draining route though - fair and honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergophobe View Post
    Thank you - that was a completely honest response and useful. I really appreciate it. I don't agree with people always repeating their patterns (I'm just naturally more optimistic in this realm, being an Nf and all). Also, personally, I'm working on learning how not to repeat my own patterns so I've got to believe it's possible. I completely understand the preference for taking the emotionally less draining route though - fair and honest.


    I think when people come to conclusions on their own, they are much less likely to repeat a pattern. If you nag, harp, cajole or whine, they haven't learned it for themselves and hence, won't take it as seriously.

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    I think this thread is pointless, because you ask people to throw insults at you, and then you give 15+ posts to defend yourself. where is the fun in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    I think this thread is pointless, because you ask people to throw insults at you, and then you give 15+ posts to defend yourself. where is the fun in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergophobe View Post
    My car does ask me difficult questions. It also expects me to just know what it's thinking when it starts flashing strange lights. Weird.
    Gimme a call if you need help with that. Thats prolly my only field of expertise
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