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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Dont mind, he is from Berlin, they neither count as west or east, just Berlin
    i grew up in the states, anyway :P

    Some friends of mine are actually from Bochum. nice guys, but tehy can be weird.

    however, east germany is nice and well away from ostfriesland

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    In my mind there were so many misconceptions that I just had to correct. So, getting back to the point...

    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Another ENTP since they are "stealing" attention from his/her show.
    No way! I love being around other ENTPs. Who wouldn't? They make you laugh, keep the conversation going, have great ideas for having fun. I hate to be the one doing all the talking trying to get others to lighten up and talk too. ENTPs are not stage personas. They are more democratic than that.

    Swearing: I don't and that's because I think it's not creative language at all (if you don't make up your own swear words!). There are better ways to express oneself. I have many ENTJ friends who do that but only a few ENTPs.

    Reading: All the ENTPs I know read a lot. I used to do that systematically (Russian classics, Chinese contemporary etc) but then realized that's not the way - there's too many!. Intuitive selecting is the best so that I can grab new books quickly when interested.

    Taking criticism: I think ENTPs criticize themselves so much that it's impossible for them to get mad when others do that. BUT they love to debate on their flaws. Why not? It's a way to create mutual understanding.

    Self-contentment: I see this more as optimism and trust in ourselves. I know it can aggravate people who only see the happy face and not the inner exploration and questioning. ENTPs see themselves as works-in-progress rather than know-it-alls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachetan View Post
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    Taking criticism: I think ENTPs criticize themselves so much that it's impossible for them to get mad when others do that. BUT they love to debate on their flaws. Why not? It's a way to create mutual understanding.
    I never critixize myself. Try blaming other people.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

    "In this Caesar there are many Mariuses"~Sulla

    Conquer your inner demons first before you conquer the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untypable View Post
    I never critixize myself. Try blaming other people.
    Sorry

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    being self-critical is never a good thing. we arte not ENTJs.
    you can never learn from your mistakes being self-critical.

    every biological organism makes mistakes, and being forgiving to yourself is very imporatant. I always forgive myself when i messed up, the one who is criticizing me can talk to a wall instead.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

    "In this Caesar there are many Mariuses"~Sulla

    Conquer your inner demons first before you conquer the world.

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    This thread is ridiculous.

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    ENTPs are the only type that can actually get MORE big headed from reading a we-hate-your-type thread.

    *edit*

    And ENTPs always have a come back for everything you say.

    Its usually terrible and not at all funny, but still counts as a come-back.
    I hope I'm wrong, but I believe that he is a fraud, and I think despite all of his rhetoric about being a champion of the working class, it will turn out to be hollow -- Bernie Sanders on Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    Have you ever had them flat out misrepresent your argument if they are proven wrong and you proven correct? I don't know if that's a general 'unhealthy ENTP thing' or a 'annoying ENTP I work with' thing.
    Mine says "Oh. I didn't realize that was what you were trying to say."
    Which means "I wasn't listening to a thing you said when you warned me that my idea would not fly."

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    Quote Originally Posted by untypable View Post


    being self-critical is never a good thing. we arte not ENTJs.
    you can never learn from your mistakes being self-critical.

    every biological organism makes mistakes, and being forgiving to yourself is very imporatant. I always forgive myself when i messed up, the one who is criticizing me can talk to a wall instead.
    I disagree. Being critical of your own actions enables you to be objective (ie. rational). And that is the way to learn and self-develop. It has nothing to do with forgiveness. You do what you do, then you evaluate the process and its outcome and lastly decide whether that action is worth continuing or changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachetan View Post
    I disagree. Being critical of your own actions enables you to be objective (ie. rational). And that is the way to learn and self-develop. It has nothing to do with forgiveness. You do what you do, then you evaluate the process and its outcome and lastly decide whether that action is worth continuing or changing.
    This guy speaks truth.
    I hope I'm wrong, but I believe that he is a fraud, and I think despite all of his rhetoric about being a champion of the working class, it will turn out to be hollow -- Bernie Sanders on Trump

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