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    I dont have bad experiences with marijuana, I just cant stand it, but that doesnt make me to condemn it.

    Salvia is nice but it need to be concentrated the often you take it. I dont know, if its the same like that Sativia you are talking about.

    Concerning the flavours, when I go out and buy drugs on the street, I am really not able to choose a flavour. I just get the shit thats there. And looking at some old friends, who are doing the thing for like 10 years now, I know where its gonna lead.

    Of course you can order blends or drive to holland from here and take it there, but its a huge logistical undertaking to do that, if you dont want to get caught.

    I lived without dope for a long time, then I lived for 5 years with it and today I live without it again. Thats all I am gonna say on the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I dont have bad experiences with marijuana, I just cant stand it, but that doesnt make me to condemn it.

    Salvia is nice but it need to be concentrated the often you take it. I dont know, if its the same like that Sativia you are talking about.

    Concerning the flavours, when I go out and buy drugs on the street, I am really not able to choose a flavour. I just get the shit thats there. And looking at some old friends, who are doing the thing for like 10 years now, I know where its gonna lead.

    Of course you can order blends or drive to holland from here and take it there, but its a huge logistical undertaking to do that, if you dont want to get caught.

    I lived without dope for a long time, then I lived for 5 years with it and today I live without it again. Thats all I am gonna say on the topic.
    I understand. What I was asking about was the difference between Sativa and Indicas marijuana- as in Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indicas the genus and species name of the plant.

    Since I've never really heard of the difference, I'd imagine you're right- you can't really try to buy or the other, you just buy what's there. not that I'm off to buy anything or smoke any weed..that'll wait until I grow up a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Coming from someone who has absolutely no experience with weed, what is the difference between indicas and sativas? How can you tell and what effects do they promote? Out of curiosity..of course..
    Indicas are higher in cannabinoids and have less THC than sativas. So this causes a heavier high with more of a bodybuzz. Mentally it can make you slower and more clumsy. Sativas produce more of the psychedelic effects you've heard about weed. Feels cleaner and lighter. Racing thought, but not in a bad way, for most people.

    Most commonly, it will be a hybrid of both with either indica or sativa as dominant.

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    Concerning the relation between cannabis and intuition maybe one last word.

    I was a very creative guy, having a huge fantasy and I was able to write stories in which I bravely interconnected a lot of unrelated things (nobody understand it though).

    I cant put the emotions into my words to let this sound serious so I just say what I wanted to say:

    When I did drugs, intuition turned into a threatening form of paranoia. It didnt depend on what flavour I'ld take, I was able to misinterpret everything and too even reject my closest friends. That happened in the end, at the beginning it was good. I highly overdid it in the end, smoked huge amounts a day and therefore I really induced that bad experience to myself, so I dont condemn drugs.

    But whats really important and that is a thing bugging me until today. After I quit the drugs, my imagination did never recover. For years after it, my mind was blank and people who knew me from the past tried to bring out my old self again but it was gone.

    It was a good experience though, I would like to call it growing up. Until I started to find a topic that intrested me again in university, I was driveless, lazy and a working zombie near death.

    What I wanted to say with all this: you can do all the drugs in the world you want. But I dont need them no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Salvia is the most intense twisting of reality I've ever experienced. It's frightening and amazing.

    Do you experience the salvia "pull"? What about "melting" into your physical environment?
    Yeah. The first time I tried it I felt like I was being pulled down into a "river" of some kind (that's the closest I can describe it, at least), and I started to become one with the grass I was sitting on.

    My trips since the first time have been much more visually focused, though still bizarre and intense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Salvia is the most intense twisting of reality I've ever experienced. It's frightening and amazing.

    Do you experience the salvia "pull"? What about "melting" into your physical environment?
    i did the 20 extract once. melting, fusing, merging, whatever- it's intense. no euphoria either, not fun but very very interesting. left me with a lot of head noise for an hour or so afterwards. just totally discombobulated. unlike pot i was totally unable to verbalize anything.

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    You can usually spot the difference between indicas and sativas from the moment you smoke them. Sativas tend to take longer to take effect but ultimately give you a more active high. Indicas can be more of a depressant. At least this is the difference I have noticed and a lot of my friends agree with me. I think I mentioned earlier that different brain types react differently to marijuana. I vastly prefer sativa blends but indica blends don't knock me out as fast as they do other people.

    I guess I just have one of those weed reactive brains!

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    When sober, I can never quite block everything else out and focus entirely on the emotional impact of that particular moment. Often when I'm upset about something or really having trouble mulling over a particular decision in my head, the solution will seem obvious within 10 minutes of lighting up that after-work bowl. The possibilities seem endless.
    I'm very long term solution oriented when it comes to matters of self both mental and physical. I see any issues as my body trying to tell me to make changes someplace, finding where isn't always easy but is always worth while.

    Being an ENTP, I know that feeling you're talking about, not being able to block everything out. I see smoking as a way of achieving that a cop out that avoids growth and prolongs a permanent resolution. I have an ENTP friend that has an after work bowl, he has been doing the same cycle for at least the past 6 years. He smokes cause he likes to, smokes cause he needs to, quits cause he feels like he doesn't have control, smokes cause he likes to, smokes cause he needs to, quits cause he feels like he doesn't have control. I find the whole thing pretty damn funny honestly.

    I have never drank, never smoked, never done any drug of any kind in fact. I have yet to avoid any problem I've ever had in my life. To take that edge off and clear my head, I meditate. This has allowed me to gain control over yet another aspect of my life, my intense, out of control and insane Ti. Having done so I think puts me at a distinct advantage, our Ne Ti working together can be amazingly insightful and gives us such an edge. That feeling you have is you trying to gain control over those as they often times conflict, don't line up or send confusing mixed signals. Smoking may slow that whole process down but the goal is to understand it not slow it down. With understanding you will have the same outcome without any loss of ENTPness.

    I like this quote about meditation and I'm putting it up because somebody is bound to comment on it being pointless.

    We could say that meditation doesn't have a reason or doesn't have a purpose. In this respect it's unlike almost all other things we do except perhaps making music and dancing. When we make music we don't do it in order to reach a certain point, such as the end of the composition. If that were the purpose of music then obviously the fastest players would be the best. Also, when we are dancing we are not aiming to arrive at a particular place on the floor as in a journey. When we dance, the journey itself is the point, as when we play music the playing itself is the point. And exactly the same thing is true in meditation. Meditation is the discovery that the point of life is always arrived at in the immediate moment.

    I'm not a prude, I don't care if people smoke weed, I don't care why people smoke weed. I have decided to comment only because the op was another ENTP and I understand the situation and can contrast it with another ENTP that has made a different choice. I will say my friend is far less balanced, tends to avoid people more than I, far more flighty and seemingly never finds any peace or rest in his own mind. He has prety much withdrawn from all but his small inner circle of friends and most people don't get him at all. Not saying that has to do only with smoking but I'm sure it comes into play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld
    --Most SJs I know seem to dislike the lack of physical coordination and control over physical environment that it creates. I've known one serious SJ smoker (he was ISTJ, to be specific), and I think he used it for reasons similar to why SJs over 21 seem to frequently enjoy alcohol: a planned period of relaxation after a hard day's work. (Alcohol is more popular among SJs, though, because it's legal and I guess that's important to some people.)
    this really surprised me, as I smoke several times a week and prefer it way over alcohol. like you said though, I like using it for a planned period of relaxation but also for many other reasons. it helps with back pains, helps put me to sleep, helps stimulate my appetite, helps me put things in a different perspective, helps make things more fun, etc.

    I also enjoy smoking by myself a lot, which people think is weird for some reason.

    ALSO, I'm all for psychedelics, no matter how hard they are. everything from shrooms to acid to mescaline or dmt, I love them. I'm really against drugs that do harm to your body though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Hell no. For me, MJ promotes intense introspection, and at the same time causes me to be more introverted and detached from reality.
    really? haha, I get much more extroverted and silly

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