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    ENFPs. I'm not really sure why.

    Also INTJs, because they like to discuss theories and ideas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by untypable View Post
    What is the difference between enfp and entp. It seems the functions are similar but they are very different inside.
    Between me and my ENFP brother:

    1. We both love strategy and RPG games. But where he wants characters he can relate to and gets attached to them, and likes to play noble, good characters that save the world and get adored by everyone, I find the characters annoying and predictable and just get in the way of the actual gameplay, and prefer the political intrigue and intellectual gymnastics of working shit out, I want it to be as complex as possible and like to play evil bastards and murder peasants gratuitously

    2. With his housemates, he's like a maid and mother rolled into one. He looks after them, he cleans up after them, he gets the food in and checks up on them to make sure they're okay and see what they need. I do my own thing, sometimes share a crate of beer with them if i'm in the mood, and leave their damn dishes on the counter, I ain't washing yo' shit, mofo! And I don't mind being the bad guy occasionally, and living with the resultant hate. I know it'll blow over.

    3. He says "I have standards", which means he won't buy non-fairtrade, non-organic, GI stuff and beggars himself buying groceries out of his budget for the sake of his values. I "have standards", which means I won't allow people to treat me like a sucker or take advantage of me, just because I'm a nice guy. His standards are about how well he lives up to his values - mine are about how I see myself and therefore, how I let others treat me.

    4. He gets offended over very peculiar things, whilst simultaneously seeming to let people get away with murder. Example: dude keeps scabbing his tobacco and never gets his own, even though he earns three times as much money and could easily get his own - my bro puts up with it and always lets him share. But if anyone suggests that he might have fibbed or been slightly dishonest, or fails to "big him up" to other people, he sees it as gross disloyalty and gets really pissy. I couldn't care less if someone calls me a liar or accuses me of shit I haven't done, I just shrug and let them draw their own conclusions, and trust the facts to speak for me as they reveal themselves, I'll laugh at you as you accuse me, and ask if you wanna join in the networked game of Neverwinter 2, but if you try to take the piss and scab my beer when you could get your own, just cos you can't be bothered to walk round the corner to the store and get some, even though I'm hard up and you're loaded, you can fuck right off mate, I don't wanna know you.

    5. If he says something that pisses me off and I get annoyed, I'll let him know right away, then he'll get all upset because I'm shouting and keep telling me he won't listen until I calm down and stop shouting, which just makes me more mad. If i say something that pisses him off, he says "hmmm" and then broods over it for ages and pretends nothing's wrong, then it comes out in an explosion about something totally trivial much later on. And I'll say why didn't you just tell me at the time? And he says, he didn't want to get all angry and cause a scene, and I'll say, dude, I'm fine with "scenes", I'd rather know if I'm pissing you off by you yelling and telling me, than you sit on it all that time and brood!

    These are just off the top of my head, and may not be representative of all ENTP/ENFP differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Between me and my ENFP brother:

    1. We both love strategy and RPG games. But where he wants characters he can relate to and gets attached to them, and likes to play noble, good characters that save the world and get adored by everyone, I find the characters annoying and predictable and just get in the way of the actual gameplay, and prefer the political intrigue and intellectual gymnastics of working shit out, I want it to be as complex as possible and like to play evil bastards and murder peasants gratuitously

    2. With his housemates, he's like a maid and mother rolled into one. He looks after them, he cleans up after them, he gets the food in and checks up on them to make sure they're okay and see what they need. I do my own thing, sometimes share a crate of beer with them if i'm in the mood, and leave their damn dishes on the counter, I ain't washing yo' shit, mofo! And I don't mind being the bad guy occasionally, and living with the resultant hate. I know it'll blow over.

    3. He says "I have standards", which means he won't buy non-fairtrade, non-organic, GI stuff and beggars himself buying groceries out of his budget for the sake of his values. I "have standards", which means I won't allow people to treat me like a sucker or take advantage of me, just because I'm a nice guy. His standards are about how well he lives up to his values - mine are about how I see myself and therefore, how I let others treat me.

    4. He gets offended over very peculiar things, whilst simultaneously seeming to let people get away with murder. Example: dude keeps scabbing his tobacco and never gets his own, even though he earns three times as much money and could easily get his own - my bro puts up with it and always lets him share. But if anyone suggests that he might have fibbed or been slightly dishonest, or fails to "big him up" to other people, he sees it as gross disloyalty and gets really pissy. I couldn't care less if someone calls me a liar or accuses me of shit I haven't done, I just shrug and let them draw their own conclusions, and trust the facts to speak for me as they reveal themselves, I'll laugh at you as you accuse me, and ask if you wanna join in the networked game of Neverwinter 2, but if you try to take the piss and scab my beer when you could get your own, just cos you can't be bothered to walk round the corner to the store and get some, even though I'm hard up and you're loaded, you can fuck right off mate, I don't wanna know you.

    5. If he says something that pisses me off and I get annoyed, I'll let him know right away, then he'll get all upset because I'm shouting and keep telling me he won't listen until I calm down and stop shouting, which just makes me more mad. If i say something that pisses him off, he says "hmmm" and then broods over it for ages and pretends nothing's wrong, then it comes out in an explosion about something totally trivial much later on. And I'll say why didn't you just tell me at the time? And he says, he didn't want to get all angry and cause a scene, and I'll say, dude, I'm fine with "scenes", I'd rather know if I'm pissing you off by you yelling and telling me, than you sit on it all that time and brood!

    These are just off the top of my head, and may not be representative of all ENTP/ENFP differences.
    nice story.

    I guess the difference is if an enfp is pissed, he could forgive you like any NF would. but if an entp is pissed, he could fuck you as hard as an estp would.

    I didn't add INTJ becuase I am not sure which direction entp would go if it goes more J entropie.
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    No, I'm pretty sure I don't have a vengeful bone in my body. It's not something I would think really fits in with the ENTP profile at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    No, dont change them, I was just wondering why the four ? Why for example not INTJ ?
    OP probably assumed that a type with two letters' difference is automatically more different from ENTP than any of the types with only one letter's difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    OP probably assumed that a type with two letters' difference is automatically more different from ENTP than any of the types with only one letter's difference.
    Agreed, and of course the most fundamental axis is the P-J one. As soon as that is flipped a completely different way of experiencing the world comes to the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Agreed, and of course the most fundamental axis is the P-J one. As soon as that is flipped a completely different way of experiencing the world comes to the surface.
    I've wondered, myself, whether P/J or S/N is truly the most fundamental axis. I think I'll take a page from Keirsey and suggest that P/J is more important for Sensors, and that maybe iNtuition itself is the most distinguishing factor for N-type people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I've wondered, myself, whether P/J or S/N is truly the most fundamental axis. I think I'll take a page from Keirsey and suggest that P/J is more important for Sensors, and that maybe iNtuition itself is the most distinguishing factor for N-type people.
    Well, perhaps a slight tweak - the P/J axis is most fundamental for how we appear to others.

    A P type will always have Se or Ne on the surface.

    A J type will have Te or Fe on the surface.

    When faced with a person you just met, finding out whether they perceive the world, or judge it, is (at least to me) most fundamental.

    In terms of how well you identify with someone, intuition vs sensor seems to be at least as key, maybe more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Well, perhaps a slight tweak - the P/J axis is most fundamental for how we appear to others.

    A P type will always have Se or Ne on the surface.

    A J type will have Te or Fe on the surface.

    When faced with a person you just met, finding out whether they perceive the world, or judge it, is (at least to me) most fundamental.

    In terms of how well you identify with someone, intuition vs sensor seems to be at least as key, maybe more so.
    Hey, that's true, and it solves that nagging "Why do IPs lead with a judging function and IJs with a perceiving one?" problem, too.

    I suppose the P/J, in addition to other connotations created by MBTI independently of Jung, simply means which trait is extroverted toward the the outside world most readily--it's just that this function is auxiliary for Introverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    No, I'm pretty sure I don't have a vengeful bone in my body. It's not something I would think really fits in with the ENTP profile at all...

    I am pretty vengeful to bullies and people who shows intimidation towards me. Whether it fits in the entp file or not. its really not my business. But it is one of my core character traits. Maybe I don't repsond well to intimidation or people who want to subjecate me to their authority.
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