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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    *Frustration sets in because of the only unpredictable variable called the human factor impinging on the system from aquiring optimal efficiency.


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    *When you're an ass, and the only reason is because others don't have a backbone.
    QFT. I only say what everyone else wants said but is afraid to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty_Mountain_Rose View Post

    QFT. I only say what everyone else wants said but is afraid to.
    Stop saying things that make me think I need to change my type again.
    If a deaf INFP falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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    When you (a) feel like many conversations with others are wasting your life because they could be accomplished more efficiently, then (b) you spend 5 hours surfing the 'net.

    Then, you acknowledge that this is irrational and make yourself sit through someone rambling for the sake of growth.
    *You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.
    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    When you attend a family funeral and feel like you're at a stranger's funeral because you're the only one that's not distraught.
    Everybody have fun tonight. Everybody Wang Chung tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    When you attend a family funeral and feel like you're at a stranger's funeral because you're the only one that's not distraught.
    Ugh.

    *goes to confirm his J/P preference*
    If a deaf INFP falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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    I have read the comments from pages 1 through 6, and found that none of them say much about INTJness. To save time, I'll assume the other 5 pages are similar and not read them. The reason most of them are inconsequential is that people have addressed one-liners that can also be applied to other types. For example, ENTJs are also capable of being arrogant. Thus, if we're only looking at arrogance as indicative of personality then we are bound to be mislead since this is not merely particular to INTJs. Instead, we must search for features that are highly particular to INTJs. To wit, what is INTJness in its entirety? Or, what are features that are particular only to INTJs such that if a person exhibits these features they are bound to be an INTJ? As I've established, arrogance alone isn't telling since other types can also be arrogant. Come to think of it, I'm not sure that it is at all possible to decide if someone is an INTJ based on one characteristic. There will be certain characteristics that overlap with ENTJs (such as arrogance and/or organizational skills), others with INTPs (such as their cool intellectualism), others with ENTPs (such as their twisted sense of humor). It is some combination of all of these things. I don't think it is possible to characterize a person by a one-liner. At best, the one-liner "you know you're an INTJ if....x" will just be one piece of a jigsaw puzzle. However, I suppose to be a little more open-minded the coming together of all these pieces of the INTJ puzzle form something greater and more holistic. Thus, while on an individual basis most of the contributions in this thread can be easily debunked, I suppose the whole discussion in its pluralistic entirety can enrich our understanding of INTJness. To further the discussion, given that the pieces that make up the INTJ puzzle can and do overlap with other types, what can we say about the INTJ puzzle as a whole? That is, at the highest level of abstraction what is the single most salient feature(s) that constitute INTJness? Unless we can address this question, we are merely expounding on trivial drivel in vain. Anyhow, carry on.

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    ^^ You know you're INTJ if you could and did read and follow that without query or qualm from first word to last without pause for mental breath.


    We have a special rhythm in our words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoker View Post
    I have read the comments from pages 1 through 6, and found that none of them say much about INTJness. To save time, I'll assume the other 5 pages are similar and not read them. The reason most of them are inconsequential is that people have addressed one-liners that can also be applied to other types. For example, ENTJs are also capable of being arrogant. Thus, if we're only looking at arrogance as indicative of personality then we are bound to be mislead since this is not merely particular to INTJs. Instead, we must search for features that are highly particular to INTJs. To wit, what is INTJness in its entirety? Or, what are features that are particular only to INTJs such that if a person exhibits these features they are bound to be an INTJ? As I've established, arrogance alone isn't telling since other types can also be arrogant. Come to think of it, I'm not sure that it is at all possible to decide if someone is an INTJ based on one characteristic. There will be certain characteristics that overlap with ENTJs (such as arrogance and/or organizational skills), others with INTPs (such as their cool intellectualism), others with ENTPs (such as their twisted sense of humor). It is some combination of all of these things. I don't think it is possible to characterize a person by a one-liner. At best, the one-liner "you know you're an INTJ if....x" will just be one piece of a jigsaw puzzle. However, I suppose to be a little more open-minded the coming together of all these pieces of the INTJ puzzle form something greater and more holistic. Thus, while on an individual basis most of the contributions in this thread can be easily debunked, I suppose the whole discussion in its pluralistic entirety can enrich our understanding of INTJness. To further the discussion, given that the pieces that make up the INTJ puzzle can and do overlap with other types, what can we say about the INTJ puzzle as a whole? That is, at the highest level of abstraction what is the single most salient feature(s) that constitute INTJness? Unless we can address this question, we are merely expounding on trivial drivel in vain. Anyhow, carry on.
    Yeah, that about sums it up for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoker View Post
    To further the discussion, given that the pieces that make up the INTJ puzzle can and do overlap with other types, what can we say about the INTJ puzzle as a whole? That is, at the highest level of abstraction what is the single most salient feature(s) that constitute INTJness? Unless we can address this question, we are merely expounding on trivial drivel in vain. Anyhow, carry on.
    You know you're INTJ when you write like this : P
    But that's a very valid point. I don't think the nature of someone who is INTJ (or any type) can be distilled into any specific characteristic, even the name (acronym I guess) is made up of 4 adjectives. So is it possible to be more succinct? Probably not, unless you get into really abstract descriptions like "systems builder".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoker View Post
    Instead, we must search for features that are highly particular to INTJs. To wit, what is INTJness in its entirety? Or, what are features that are particular only to INTJs such that if a person exhibits these features they are bound to be an INTJ?
    Ok

    However, I suppose to be a little more open-minded the coming together of all these pieces of the INTJ puzzle form something greater and more holistic. Thus, while on an individual basis most of the contributions in this thread can be easily debunked, I suppose the whole discussion in its pluralistic entirety can enrich our understanding of INTJness.
    Yet, you recognize the 'merit' of this type of thread.

    To further the discussion, given that the pieces that make up the INTJ puzzle can and do overlap with other types, what can we say about the INTJ puzzle as a whole? That is, at the highest level of abstraction what is the single most salient feature(s) that constitute INTJness? Unless we can address this question, we are merely expounding on trivial drivel in vain. Anyhow, carry on.
    But, then, dismiss it once again?

    Are you trying to debate whether the whole (thread) is made up the sum of its parts (individual INTJ remarks) or whether the whole is greater than the sum of its parts?

    ....the only conclusion I could reach is that if what you're proposing is doable (bolded, underlined), then, all it takes may be summing up of the thread thus far (given your second quote)? Can you do it? If not, why not?

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