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    Default What do INTPs think of the world financial crisis?

    Hmmm....quite a bit of a sensitive issue for an INTP to touch at.

    For one, INTPs don't seem to have a place for anything corporate.

    We're not subservient, sociable entry-level employees (like an ISFJ secretary)

    We hardly abide to a chain of command, as well as implement anything with a great deal of proficiency (like an ESTJ supervisor)

    And, we're not too much of an audacious visionary with ridiculously uptight work ethics (like an ENTJ boss).

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    However, the good thing with INTPs when it comes to crises like this that we're having is...

    For one, we don't have the xxTJ paranoia. Hell, CNN can bombard us with all the negative news they can muster and our emotions will still be in neutral mode.

    It's funny how everyone these days talk about the specifics of the stimulus package. The thing is, you can't stimulus package the J paranoia and to a large degree, I view the crisis as a matter of fear engulfing every paranoid J there is. Too bad there are more Js than Ps. You can't quick fix the J paranoia, period. Only a calm mind, for example, can be persuaded to do consumer spending, and at least mimimize the damage. Problem is, with the current information technology boom we're having, it's easy to propagate shock journalism.

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    Maybe for once, it would be a good idea to bring an INTP economic genius to a drawing board, and make him do nothing but conceptualize a new set of principles to guide the future. INTPs think more of principles than specifics, and I think the crisis just show that there's fundamentally wrong in free trade that has been overlooked. You can't draw a long term solution composed of specifics if the principles are wrong or flawed in the first place.

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    This is simple. Should've allowed the banks to collapse. Either way, your money's gone anyway. Now our money and our kids money is gone. Those bailed out banks are gonna keep comin back for help too. As far as europe and Japan, they've had us in their background while they collapse. And they still bitch, except Japan. I have a question for europe, Who's gonna help you, via economy, when we collapse? Not at all intended for Japan. We all could learn a thing or 2 from them. But not through their economic decisions, rather their adaptability. This is a problem that came from both Obama and Bush admins. Bush started it, Obama's gonna accelorate it. Plug your ears!

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    Yeah - like I spend a lot of time deconstructing the world economy.

    However (isn't there always the infamous however?) - I was thinking earlier this evening that the first "fix" for causing more income in the U.S. to be spent rather than buried in an old coffee can in the backyard (assuming one does not lose one's backyard as a result of foreclosure) is the potential $13/week tax cut COMING THIS JUNE TO A PAYCHECK NEAR YOU!!!

    Not quite enough to hoard... Hell, honey, let's go to Starbucks, see a movie, have lunch out once a week! Not all three, for gawd's sake - pick one.

    Feel free to mix it up.

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    My dad's an INTP, and his thought on the crisis is, "now is a good time to invest in banks". That's probably the best thought I've heard about it all anyway.
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    what world financial crisis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    what world financial crisis?
    Best answer so far.



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    I think that it is a necessary and inevitable step towards socialism.

    The longer the conservatives (reactionaries) try to prevent socialist reform, the more we will end up hurting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didums View Post
    I think that it is a necessary and inevitable step towards socialism.

    The longer the conservatives (reactionaries) try to prevent socialist reform, the more we will end up hurting.
    You're a socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    You're a socialist.
    Yessir. And?

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    Honestly, I saw this mess coming.

    I've had this feeling for a while that we have been going down a path of excess. We want the big house. We want the nice cars. We get ourselves into credit card debt paying for things that we just don't need. People mortgage their homes to send children to college. Every day, there were credit card offers in the mail. Everybody just wanted to give you money... so you would be in debt to them and pay hefty interest fees. But it's all okay, because you own things and have a big house to put it in...

    I think that one of the truest issues at hand here is greed. I think society, in a way, has been okay with this way of living. We've been too comfortable that there is always money to borrow to get what you want, so you might as well have what you want. I think that most people never saw it coming and nor have they seen any issue with it until now.

    We as a society have created this situation. We made it okay to live as we have lived, without seeing it as an issue. It's okay if everyone thinks in the same way, right?? But didn't everyone think the world was flat once? I haven't fully decided yet if America is to blame for the world economy. Asians have built themselves up by producing products that we wanted.. tv's, cars, ipods. So is it our fault if we can't buy things anymore and that their economies weren't more diversified? Bankers have been doing shady shady things for waaaay longer than the last few monthes. That isn't new news.... It's just now, when people see the results of greedy actions, that anyone has paused to care.

    We are all intertwined in a way and I don't think that there is an easy solution to any of it. To me, change is the only solution. What exactly that change might be, I don't know yet.

    A quote that I like that kind of draws it together for me (by Einstein, I think):

    The world we have created is a product of our thinking... It cannot be changed without changing our thinking.

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