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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Maybe you didn't mean it like this, but being direct is often mistaken for being confident. Not the same thing. Being direct could be a style of talking, a lack of consideration for others feelings, or just wanting to get to the point. Being confident is something within you, something that makes you know that your self worth is not given to you. It's yours. You have decide your own worth.

    I can smell an insecure man a mile away. If he has many other wonderful attributes, I'll work with him in building his self confidence. But this is not something that I enjoy doing, and I have very little patience for slow learners.

    This is how I know that the INFJ/ENTP pairing would never work for me. INTxs can be lacking self confidence, but the difference is that they don't care. Which makes them, somehow, more attractive.

    Well, my confidance can be overlooked without too much problem since social stereotypes apply that very introverted people have a problem in this sphere.

    Especially since my self confidance is not a raw one(for the most part).
    By this I mean that I am not one of the move aside I can do a better job people..


    Instead my confidance manifest itself as my faith in my ability to make a right choice. Which is one more factor why you can miss. Plus I don't make hasty desicions because I am usually careful with data I get. If I see the information could be wrong I "slow down" in order to get it right/to the bottom.

    Which is exactly why I have a faith in my way of doing things.

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    Erm: How do you know what I seem to think? And why wouldn't I have applied it vice versa? The fact is that she already made the first move, now it's his turn.

    Weeding out men with no confidence in my estimation, but the weeding process is different for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Well, my confidance can be overlooked without too much problem since social stereotypes apply that very introverted people have a problem in this sphere.

    Especially since my self confidance is not a raw one(for the most part).
    By this I mean that I am not one of the move aside I can do a better job people..


    Instead my confidance manifest itself as my faith in my ability to make a right choice. Which is one more factor why you can miss. Plus I don't make hasty desicions because I am usually careful with data I get. If I see the information could be wrong I "slow down" in order to get it right/to the bottom.

    Which is exactly why I have a faith in my way of doing things.
    And that's wonderful and exactly what I would expect. Self confidence doesn't always look like Mr. ESTP. It's the having faith in yourself part, no matter how you manifest it.

    I think you'll do fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Erm: How do you know what I seem to think? And why wouldn't I have applied it vice versa?
    You were answering this question:

    "Would you mind explaining me why you don't like to be the one that pop the question about going out together?"

    Weren't you?

    The impression was, you like the man to ask you out, not vice versa. I was curious as to why the apparent gender distinction was there. Along with fluffywolf's and other's responses I've seen a lot around the place.

    All answers I've seen can be applied from the man's perspective as well. A long with the, expecting the man to pay thing I see a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erm View Post
    You were answering this question:

    "Would you mind explaining me why you don't like to be the one that pop the quetion about going out togather ?"

    Weren't you?

    The impression was, you like the man to ask you out, not vice versa. I was curious as to why the apparent gender distinction was there.
    I never said anything about a gender distinction, in fact, I made it a point not to make it about gender. He asked me why I don't like it and I told him why I don't like it. It would be the same if I was a lesbian and was courting females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    I never said anything about a gender distinction, in fact, I made it a point not to make it about gender. He asked me why I don't like it and I told him why I don't like it. It would be the same if I was a lesbian and was courting females.
    Still, the double standard is there. You expect them to ask you out, what if they expect the same?

    If you think giving strong signals is enough, what if they think the same?

    Just curious and all. It certainly looks like a gender distinction. The "if things were different" (being a lesbian) response could be applied to absolutely anything, afterall.

    It would make sense if say, you wanted to filter out people who think the same way as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erm View Post
    All answers I've seen can be applied from the man's perspective as well. A long with the, expecting the man to pay thing I see a lot.
    I never expect a man to pay for anything, but I will not be caught up haggling over a bill. It's humiliating. You pay this time and I'll pay next, but I won't split checks.

    Traditionally, and even now, people in partnerships have different strengths and weaknesses. If it's the partners' goal to marry and raise children, it should be expected to know that while one partner is unable to work, the other can still afford to support the new family at the current level. It's not brain surgery why women "try a man on" like that. We all have dating criteria and I find it abhorrent that men can easily say that they want a woman with big breasts, a fat ass, able to cook, clean and bear children, etc... but it's looked down with disgust if a woman requests that a man have a sufficient salary.

    If you don't like women who look for men with earning potential, then you have to define your own weeding out process.


    As far as you making me speak hypothetically about my actual life, I have no answers for you. I am speaking in the context of me, and since I am attracted to men, it seems like a gender bias. But if you read anything of what I wrote you will see that I approach men more often than not. No gender bias. I just don't take them as seriously in the long run. And I'm entitled to have that point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    We all have dating criteria and I find it abhorrent that men can easily say that they want a woman with big breasts, a fat ass, able to cook, clean and bear children, etc... but it's looked down with disgust if a woman requests that a man have a sufficient salary.
    I wasn't aware of that double standard. I thought both were seen as shallow? Probably the male one more so than the female one (which I agree with).

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    As far as you making me speak hypothetically about my actual life, I have no answers for you. I am speaking in the context of me, and since I am attracted to men, it seems like a gender bias. But if you read anything of what I wrote you will see that I approach men more often than not. No gender bias. I just don't take them as seriously in the long run. And I'm entitled to have that point of view.
    I wasn't suggesting anything contradictory to that. Like I said, just curious.

    If I was offended by a gender bias, every hetero or homosexual would offend me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erm View Post
    I wasn't aware of that double standard. I thought both were seen as shallow? Probably the male one more so than the female one.
    No, it's quite common that a man expect a woman should know how to cook, at the very least. And women are judged every single day on their bodies, not just by shallow men. But with changing times and people living more on credit, traditional gender roles have had to change. And expectations have had to change. There are still a few relics hanging around. But I can't speak for all womankind. I just know that I like a confident person, romantically. How do I judge confidence? Well, being able to approach me, for one.

    I know you are just curious. I have no problem with answering your questions.

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    When it come to date dinamics does it really matter who poped the question ? (or that is relative)

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